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I don’t have a diagnosis of any sort that I’m aware. Personally I’d have motorcycles banned, I don’t see any (net) benefits of them, and the noise is ridiculous

I don’t have a diagnosis of any sort that I’m aware. Personally I’d have motorcycles banned, I don’t see any (net) benefits of them, and the noise is ridiculous. I made it a top priority to live «far» from a main road when moving, after living too near one for a few years. Shops - I don’t think I live anywhere near you. I haven’t had that experience.

corobo 4y ago
I saw a bike with "Blood" and NHS signs zipping through stopped traffic the other day. Just in case you wanted the one benefit anyway.
- pletnes 4y ago
  Thanks! Good engineers should recognize both pros and cons. I guess there are «police» ones, too.
camtarn 4y ago
Whether or not there's a net social benefit to motorcycles being on the road is a question that could be debated (extra fun for bikers, less space and fuel taken per person travelling, versus extra mortality and costs from crashes) but it seems like you'd want to ban them simply because you think that motorbikes are fundamentally loud. As I mentioned above, motorcycles don't need to be loud. They're loud because people modify them to be so. Depending on where you are, there may already be laws about how loud they can legally be.
nehal3m 4y ago
Like I mentioned a little higher up, I used to commute exclusively by motorcycle (a 600cc two cylinder from the late 90s). For me the net benefits were: - Simple tech that I can maintain and repair myself without expensive tooling - Very low tax - When riding conservatively it has great fuel economy - Filtering is legal here so backed up traffic had very little impact on my commute time I run my bike with a legally approved exhaust that has a nice note but is not loud. All in all it has saved me a lot of time and money, and isn't that the point of owning a vehicle in the first place?
- pletnes 4y ago
  I know people who do the same. In winter they drive their cars, so I don’t see a big net win. Of course, in California I guess the snow is less of an issue.
prmoustache 4y ago
The noise is not ridiculous on all of them. I ride what they call a maxi scooter, my exhaust is bog standard and I try to ride calmly, not revving like a madman at every green light. I hate that people are mounting loud exhaust on similar bike, this is not even a sporty motorbike what is the point? Having said that, Yamaha T-Max scooters should be banned. There is not a single decent human being riding them, I think they are just a close third at the bottom of the scale after the nazis and the feyenoord rotterdam fans...they are all riding like assholes.
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corobo 4y ago

I saw a bike with "Blood" and NHS signs zipping through stopped traffic the other day. Just in case you wanted the one benefit anyway.

pletnes 4y ago
Thanks! Good engineers should recognize both pros and cons. I guess there are «police» ones, too.

camtarn 4y ago

Whether or not there's a net social benefit to motorcycles being on the road is a question that could be debated (extra fun for bikers, less space and fuel taken per person travelling, versus extra mortality and costs from crashes) but it seems like you'd want to ban them simply because you think that motorbikes are fundamentally loud. As I mentioned above, motorcycles don't need to be loud. They're loud because people modify them to be so. Depending on where you are, there may already be laws about how loud they can legally be.

nehal3m 4y ago

Like I mentioned a little higher up, I used to commute exclusively by motorcycle (a 600cc two cylinder from the late 90s). For me the net benefits were: - Simple tech that I can maintain and repair myself without expensive tooling - Very low tax - When riding conservatively it has great fuel economy - Filtering is legal here so backed up traffic had very little impact on my commute time I run my bike with a legally approved exhaust that has a nice note but is not loud. All in all it has saved me a lot of time and money, and isn't that the point of owning a vehicle in the first place?

pletnes 4y ago
I know people who do the same. In winter they drive their cars, so I don’t see a big net win. Of course, in California I guess the snow is less of an issue.

prmoustache 4y ago

The noise is not ridiculous on all of them. I ride what they call a maxi scooter, my exhaust is bog standard and I try to ride calmly, not revving like a madman at every green light. I hate that people are mounting loud exhaust on similar bike, this is not even a sporty motorbike what is the point? Having said that, Yamaha T-Max scooters should be banned. There is not a single decent human being riding them, I think they are just a close third at the bottom of the scale after the nazis and the feyenoord rotterdam fans...they are all riding like assholes.

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