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At first seems like a silly idea. But in reality we really need much better enforcement here. The amount of badly tuned cars is insane in England. It's like the

At first seems like a silly idea. But in reality we really need much better enforcement here. The amount of badly tuned cars is insane in England. It's like the only purpose these drivers have, in modding their cars, is to cause annoyance.

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
If a broad cross section of society cared there would be enforcement. You don't see blatant drunk driving or insane speed get ignored. If a cop sees that they at the very least turn into Mr. Krabs with dollar signs for eyes and get to enforcing. There's really not much societal appetite for that level of enforcement against people who are engaging in annoying but mostly harmless behavior that almost everyone will grow out of hence why dumb exhausts are mostly ignored except at the extremes.
- xdfgh1112 4y ago
  People do care, it just doesn't kill anyone like drunk driving does.
  - dsfyu404ed 4y ago
    How many people care? How much do they care? How much do they care about other stuff. This isn't high on most people's lists which is why they'll slap up a camera to make You People (I'm sure I'm dating myself with that reference) quit complaining and call it good. If it mattered a lot to a lot of people the average beat cop would have it on their KPIs every other quarter.
    - avianlyric 4y ago
      > average beat cop Hahaha, average beat cop, in the UK. We defund all those years ago. The police don’t have anywhere near enough time to deal with violent crime, never mind non-violent crime. The only way enforcement will work in the UK is with automated systems that let an officer review 100 cases an hour. Anything else costs too much time. Or we could fund our police properly, but given the current situation, it’s more likely they’ll see further cuts in the near future.
      - brigandish 4y ago
        There are actually more police per capita now than at times over the past 70 years when there were much lower numbers of both police and crime, but those periods also had much higher numbers of police on foot patrol.
- bryanlarsen 4y ago
  I think that's the point. People are starting to care about this a lot more, so are pressing for enforcement. I believe it's a combination of the problem getting worse, studies coming out showing how many health problems are caused by noise, and the Dutch example that we really can have quiet cities.
  - bartread 4y ago
    > the problem getting worse Where's your data? As a sort of petrolhead-lite with a penchant for 80s and 90s Japanese performance cars what I'm mostly aware of nowadays is how few substantially modified (badly or otherwise) cars there are around relative to the 90s and noughties. There used to be a website called barryboys.co.uk that was literally devoted to pouring mockery on badly modified cars, but it was closed down in 2019 due to a lack of new material: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=1348564 http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=134856.... There simply aren't as many badly modified cars around as there used to be. I used to see hilarious shitboxes on a day to day basis, but they're mostly gone nowadays. This culture peaked in the era of the first few Fast & Furious films, also coinciding with the time when games involving modification and tuning like Gran Turismo 1 - 4 and Need For Speed: Underground 1 & 2 were popular, and has been on the decline for at least a decade. I highly recommend a browse of this site, particularly the older posts, to see how bad it got. Shed of the Week is particularly entertaining: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=12 http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=12. Sure, you do still see young people meeting in cars in supermarket car parks on a Saturday night, and places like the Starbucks at the roundabout on the north orbital just across the M25 from Watford are certainly gathering grounds for cruisers, and people do still modify cars, but with nowhere near the ubiquity that you'd see 15 or 20 years ago. Not one of these people has ever given me the slightest bit of trouble (and no, it's not because I look like an aging boy racer - my last 3 cars have been a Rover 75, the ultimate Werthers Original sucking old-man-mobile, a Saab estate, and a Volvo estate; I definitely don't look like "one of them" these days).
- doix 4y ago
  I wish that was the case, but look at skateboarding. Back when I was still in the UK, I picked up a surf-skate to mess around on while there were no waves and quickly found out how much hate there was for skateboarders. It was almost comical, because people would tell us we don't look like "typical skateboarders", but we need to fuck off. Luckily some real skateboarders saw and gave us some tips on where to go. It was pretty eye opening, I had no clue that there was such disdain for skateboarders. Personally I rather people skateboarded than had those stupid cars.
  - 6LLvveMx2koXfwn 4y ago
    Not sure when you were last in the UK but almost every village[1] has a skate park now.* 1. https://www.skateparks.co.uk/park-finder/ https://www.skateparks.co.uk/park-finder/ * slight exaggeration
- dom96 4y ago
  > You don't see blatant drunk driving or insane speed get ignored. I see the very same people who have ridiculously loud cars also drive far too fast for the road they are on about as often as I hear their stupid cars. So yes, insane speed does get ignored just as much as the noise, at least from my perspective.
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- odiroot 4y ago
  > You don't see blatant drunk driving I do see blatant drunk driving, quite a lot actually. Every time my local pub closes.
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dsfyu404ed 4y ago

If a broad cross section of society cared there would be enforcement. You don't see blatant drunk driving or insane speed get ignored. If a cop sees that they at the very least turn into Mr. Krabs with dollar signs for eyes and get to enforcing. There's really not much societal appetite for that level of enforcement against people who are engaging in annoying but mostly harmless behavior that almost everyone will grow out of hence why dumb exhausts are mostly ignored except at the extremes.

xdfgh1112 4y ago
People do care, it just doesn't kill anyone like drunk driving does.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  How many people care? How much do they care? How much do they care about other stuff. This isn't high on most people's lists which is why they'll slap up a camera to make You People (I'm sure I'm dating myself with that reference) quit complaining and call it good. If it mattered a lot to a lot of people the average beat cop would have it on their KPIs every other quarter.
  - avianlyric 4y ago
    > average beat cop Hahaha, average beat cop, in the UK. We defund all those years ago. The police don’t have anywhere near enough time to deal with violent crime, never mind non-violent crime. The only way enforcement will work in the UK is with automated systems that let an officer review 100 cases an hour. Anything else costs too much time. Or we could fund our police properly, but given the current situation, it’s more likely they’ll see further cuts in the near future.
    - brigandish 4y ago
      There are actually more police per capita now than at times over the past 70 years when there were much lower numbers of both police and crime, but those periods also had much higher numbers of police on foot patrol.
bryanlarsen 4y ago
I think that's the point. People are starting to care about this a lot more, so are pressing for enforcement. I believe it's a combination of the problem getting worse, studies coming out showing how many health problems are caused by noise, and the Dutch example that we really can have quiet cities.
- bartread 4y ago
  > the problem getting worse Where's your data? As a sort of petrolhead-lite with a penchant for 80s and 90s Japanese performance cars what I'm mostly aware of nowadays is how few substantially modified (badly or otherwise) cars there are around relative to the 90s and noughties. There used to be a website called barryboys.co.uk that was literally devoted to pouring mockery on badly modified cars, but it was closed down in 2019 due to a lack of new material: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=1348564 http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=134856.... There simply aren't as many badly modified cars around as there used to be. I used to see hilarious shitboxes on a day to day basis, but they're mostly gone nowadays. This culture peaked in the era of the first few Fast & Furious films, also coinciding with the time when games involving modification and tuning like Gran Turismo 1 - 4 and Need For Speed: Underground 1 & 2 were popular, and has been on the decline for at least a decade. I highly recommend a browse of this site, particularly the older posts, to see how bad it got. Shed of the Week is particularly entertaining: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=12 http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=12. Sure, you do still see young people meeting in cars in supermarket car parks on a Saturday night, and places like the Starbucks at the roundabout on the north orbital just across the M25 from Watford are certainly gathering grounds for cruisers, and people do still modify cars, but with nowhere near the ubiquity that you'd see 15 or 20 years ago. Not one of these people has ever given me the slightest bit of trouble (and no, it's not because I look like an aging boy racer - my last 3 cars have been a Rover 75, the ultimate Werthers Original sucking old-man-mobile, a Saab estate, and a Volvo estate; I definitely don't look like "one of them" these days).
doix 4y ago
I wish that was the case, but look at skateboarding. Back when I was still in the UK, I picked up a surf-skate to mess around on while there were no waves and quickly found out how much hate there was for skateboarders. It was almost comical, because people would tell us we don't look like "typical skateboarders", but we need to fuck off. Luckily some real skateboarders saw and gave us some tips on where to go. It was pretty eye opening, I had no clue that there was such disdain for skateboarders. Personally I rather people skateboarded than had those stupid cars.
- 6LLvveMx2koXfwn 4y ago
  Not sure when you were last in the UK but almost every village[1] has a skate park now.* 1. https://www.skateparks.co.uk/park-finder/ https://www.skateparks.co.uk/park-finder/ * slight exaggeration
dom96 4y ago
> You don't see blatant drunk driving or insane speed get ignored. I see the very same people who have ridiculously loud cars also drive far too fast for the road they are on about as often as I hear their stupid cars. So yes, insane speed does get ignored just as much as the noise, at least from my perspective.
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odiroot 4y ago
> You don't see blatant drunk driving I do see blatant drunk driving, quite a lot actually. Every time my local pub closes.

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