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Noise cameras to be trialled in England to tackle ‘boy racers’

48 points by samizdis 4y ago

okokwhatever 4y ago
So, so, so easy to get destroyed... Let's wait for the next generation of street bandits using speakers as exhausts into their EV, it's gonna get funny to play with the ultrasonics into neighbourhoods full of dogs.
odiroot 4y ago
At first seems like a silly idea. But in reality we really need much better enforcement here. The amount of badly tuned cars is insane in England. It's like the only purpose these drivers have, in modding their cars, is to cause annoyance.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  If a broad cross section of society cared there would be enforcement. You don't see blatant drunk driving or insane speed get ignored. If a cop sees that they at the very least turn into Mr. Krabs with dollar signs for eyes and get to enforcing. There's really not much societal appetite for that level of enforcement against people who are engaging in annoying but mostly harmless behavior that almost everyone will grow out of hence why dumb exhausts are mostly ignored except at the extremes.
  - xdfgh1112 4y ago
    People do care, it just doesn't kill anyone like drunk driving does.
    - dsfyu404ed 4y ago
      How many people care? How much do they care? How much do they care about other stuff. This isn't high on most people's lists which is why they'll slap up a camera to make You People (I'm sure I'm dating myself with that reference) quit complaining and call it good. If it mattered a lot to a lot of people the average beat cop would have it on their KPIs every other quarter.
      - avianlyric 4y ago
        > average beat cop Hahaha, average beat cop, in the UK. We defund all those years ago. The police don’t have anywhere near enough time to deal with violent crime, never mind non-violent crime. The only way enforcement will work in the UK is with automated systems that let an officer review 100 cases an hour. Anything else costs too much time. Or we could fund our police properly, but given the current situation, it’s more likely they’ll see further cuts in the near future.
        brigandish 4y ago
        There are actually more police per capita now than at times over the past 70 years when there were much lower numbers of both police and crime, but those periods also had much higher numbers of police on foot patrol.
  - bryanlarsen 4y ago
    I think that's the point. People are starting to care about this a lot more, so are pressing for enforcement. I believe it's a combination of the problem getting worse, studies coming out showing how many health problems are caused by noise, and the Dutch example that we really can have quiet cities.
    - bartread 4y ago
      > the problem getting worse Where's your data? As a sort of petrolhead-lite with a penchant for 80s and 90s Japanese performance cars what I'm mostly aware of nowadays is how few substantially modified (badly or otherwise) cars there are around relative to the 90s and noughties. There used to be a website called barryboys.co.uk that was literally devoted to pouring mockery on badly modified cars, but it was closed down in 2019 due to a lack of new material: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=1348564 http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=134856.... There simply aren't as many badly modified cars around as there used to be. I used to see hilarious shitboxes on a day to day basis, but they're mostly gone nowadays. This culture peaked in the era of the first few Fast & Furious films, also coinciding with the time when games involving modification and tuning like Gran Turismo 1 - 4 and Need For Speed: Underground 1 & 2 were popular, and has been on the decline for at least a decade. I highly recommend a browse of this site, particularly the older posts, to see how bad it got. Shed of the Week is particularly entertaining: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=12 http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=12. Sure, you do still see young people meeting in cars in supermarket car parks on a Saturday night, and places like the Starbucks at the roundabout on the north orbital just across the M25 from Watford are certainly gathering grounds for cruisers, and people do still modify cars, but with nowhere near the ubiquity that you'd see 15 or 20 years ago. Not one of these people has ever given me the slightest bit of trouble (and no, it's not because I look like an aging boy racer - my last 3 cars have been a Rover 75, the ultimate Werthers Original sucking old-man-mobile, a Saab estate, and a Volvo estate; I definitely don't look like "one of them" these days).
  - doix 4y ago
    I wish that was the case, but look at skateboarding. Back when I was still in the UK, I picked up a surf-skate to mess around on while there were no waves and quickly found out how much hate there was for skateboarders. It was almost comical, because people would tell us we don't look like "typical skateboarders", but we need to fuck off. Luckily some real skateboarders saw and gave us some tips on where to go. It was pretty eye opening, I had no clue that there was such disdain for skateboarders. Personally I rather people skateboarded than had those stupid cars.
    - 6LLvveMx2koXfwn 4y ago
      Not sure when you were last in the UK but almost every village[1] has a skate park now.* 1. https://www.skateparks.co.uk/park-finder/ https://www.skateparks.co.uk/park-finder/ * slight exaggeration
  - dom96 4y ago
    > You don't see blatant drunk driving or insane speed get ignored. I see the very same people who have ridiculously loud cars also drive far too fast for the road they are on about as often as I hear their stupid cars. So yes, insane speed does get ignored just as much as the noise, at least from my perspective.
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  - odiroot 4y ago
    > You don't see blatant drunk driving I do see blatant drunk driving, quite a lot actually. Every time my local pub closes.
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kypro 4y ago
As someone with auditory sensory overload I'm always amazed how much noise people are able to tolerate, and perhaps even enjoy? I don't even think the issue is custom exhausts or revving engines honestly, because it seems many stock motorbikes have incredibly loud exhausts already. Certainly loud enough to drown out speech. Yet no one seems to care. If I'm walking down the road having a conservation with someone then a noisy motorbike goes past people don't seem to react to the motorbike, instead they just instinctively start shouting at me so I can hear them over the bike as if that's a perfectly normal thing to do. Same thing seems to happen when I go into shops and restaurants these days. I feel like I'm going into a club or something, yet no one seems to notice until I point it out. The music is always so loud that people are literally shouting over the noise, yet no one thinks this weird. In fact they think I'm weird because I can't handle the noise in these kinds of places. I get I'm an outlier here, but I've always been amused by that. It seems to me people must actually like noise and shouting at each other because obviously no one is forcing anyone to buy really loud cars and bikes, nor is anyone forcing restaurants and shops to play music so loud you can't hear people speak. People seem to actually have a preference for loud exhausts and loud restaurants.
- camtarn 4y ago
  Stock motorbikes are actually pretty quiet these days, because there are laws about how loud legal exhausts can be. Even legendarily noisy Harley Davidsons come with quiet-ish exhausts by default. It's just that it's very common for people to swap them out, even if they're leaving the rest of the bike otherwise unmodified. And yeah. Can't speak for restaurants, but people really like loud exhausts. For one, there's a saying within biker circles, 'loud pipes save lives' - as in, if your exhaust is loud, people can hear you coming and you're less likely to get flattened by an oblivious driver. Whether or not that's true is very debatable (studies seem to say it makes no difference), but people believe it. And secondly, people do just like loud things in general - there's something about being kicked in the chest by pressure waves that seems very enjoyable.
  - samizdis 4y ago
    > 'loud pipes save lives' - as in, if your exhaust is loud, people can hear you coming and you're less likely to get flattened by an oblivious driver. That's an interesting perspective, and not without merit. I've never been a biker, but I used to drive a customised classic vehicle (1958 Morris 1000 van) with atrocious rear visibility. Even in cold/wet weather, I'd keep my side widow rolled down just so that I could hear motorbikes, which the huge blindspots rendered invisible.
herrherrmann 4y ago
I’d love for my city’s government to do something similar. Peeps reving their engines and playing cool for no good reason in the middle of the night is such an asocial and egoistic behavior and ruins the quality of life for whole neighborhoods. Not to mention the terror it entails for the animals in the city.
sunnyam 4y ago
I think this is a great idea, but my concern is that these boy racers tend to stick to residential areas where you don't often get speed cameras, which makes me think that noise cameras will also be placed in areas that these people won't be driving.
- Maxburn 4y ago
  It sure seems like a waste of money to replace something as simple as a "fix it" ticket.
dexr 4y ago
- nonrandomstring 4y ago
  They have every right to :) But really, I've been studying this a bit and it's definitely boy racers. Now, biker girls... that's another thing. And let's speak plainly, it's all about sex and urban teenage mating rituals... the vestiges of rock-n-roll culture. The engine noise is a mating call. Bikes can be sexy with a noisy girl on, sure! But for cars it's "Boy Racers" (Barry Boyz) acting goofy. Their cars are meant to be ridiculous to attract attention. The places they rev-up are invariably outside the pub where there's a group of women standing around.
  - blitzar 4y ago
    24 hour McDonalds parking lots are the traditional mating grounds of the teenager in the urban sprawl of britain.
zeristor 4y ago
New York's War on Noise: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/07/13/nyregion/nyc-noise-timeline.html https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013...
zeristor 4y ago
There seems to be a habit of people racing cars around the M25 in London at 01:00
- yrgulation 4y ago
  I used to live in a shack, err i mean “cozy studio”, close to the m25 and i could tell car models by their exhaust noise. Scooters and motorbikes where the most annoying, followed by “tuned” peugeots and similar small clunkers.
nonrandomstring 4y ago
It's a real shame, because we have a cultural problem of glorified ignorance. In a sense I feel sorry for these lads, because they are tinkerers, hackers of a kind like us, but with grossly curtailed opportunities for expression and exploration. When I was a kid, modding bikes and engines was everyday fun. Wouldn't they potentially be great engineers with the right guidance and education? But today they all follow the same dumb formula, sawing of the exhaust pipe and catalytic convertor, mis-tuning the engine, jacking down the suspension, doing a really shit paint job... The culture beneath that is basically anti-social, not individualistic. Sadly one has to wonder whether the days of 2-stroke scooters are also numbered in the UK. There are still lots of middle-aged Mods, you can find them by the hundreds at summer seaside town scooter rallies. But turning the air blue with the stench of two-stroke oil particulates seems less and less acceptable each year. Maybe I am growing long in the tooth. Now, don't get me started on inappropriate use of emergency vehicle sirens, which is the REAL noise pollution issue in Britain today.
- junofan 4y ago
  I think we’ve clamped down on the little people enough. There’s clearly a growing gap in freedom of expression between developing countries and us.
  - jimmytidey 4y ago
    I'm afraid I can't see this as freedom of expression, what idea are they expressing? If this is about freedom of expression, isn't fly tipping a type of expression that should be protected? In terms of general freedom, the question is does it disproportionately affect others? The answer couldn't be clearer - where I live a single person cruising around in their modified vehicle can ruin the sleep of thousands of people. In terms of the law, this is already illegal, all that's happening is the law is being enforced. I'm responding to this comment because I think a lot of people have a similar, erroneous, reaction - isn't this just another freedom being taken away? In a way yes, but the costs to individual liberty are vastly outweighed by the consequences for those who happen to be near by. And, of course, you can always modify your car and drive round a private race track, no activity has been totally prohibited.
nivenkos 4y ago
They should just ban all ICE vehicles in cities. Problem solved, and far less air pollution too.
- matja 4y ago
  I'm sure some creative people will find a way to make an EV very noisy.
- ls15 4y ago
  > Problem solved Other problems caused
- andrepd 4y ago
  Great, you've solved 1 problem cars have (tailpipe emissions), but not the other 99.
theobeers 4y ago
When I lived by Lake Shore Drive in Chicago (down in Hyde Park), the noise of nighttime motorcycle races really bothered me. I was surprised because I never thought of myself as being sensitive to such things. But it was so, so loud, and they kept it up late into the night. Trying to crack down on this seems reasonable to me—at least insofar as we’re comfortable with traffic cameras in the first place.
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maxjones1 4y ago
sh4un 4y ago
dom96 4y ago
All I can say is: finally! This should be rolled out nationwide immediately, but especially in big cities ASAP. As I am typing this I have just heard a loud car that sounds like it's at least 5km away but is still very audible. I live in East London and the amount of cars that sound like explosions going off is absolutely ridiculous.
iicc 4y ago
https://www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/fuel-consumption-co2/fuel-consumption-guide/cars-and-noise/#topic-title https://www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/fuel-consump... >The external noise emitted by passenger cars has been controlled since 1929 when the Motor Cars (Excessive Noise) regulations were introduced. New cars are now required to meet Europe-wide noise limits. These have been progressively reduced from 82 decibels (dB (A)) in 1978 to the current limit of 72 dB (A) established in 2016.
SilverBirch 4y ago
Now let's play a game before reading the article, do we think these cameras are going to be installed in Knightsbridge where Russian, Middle Eastern and Indian billionaires' children hang around revving the bollocks off their Ferraris, or are these going to be installed on the outskirts of Grimsby trying to find a way of locking up that kid who's revving a 2003 Skoda Fabia? Drum roll please... Ah yes, it's Bradford. Yeah, that's right, they're spending thousands of pounds on noise cameras to address the real issue challenging Bradford- noise pollution. Good thing they didn't get distracted by any trivial issues like 30% of the children in Bradford living in poverty. I'm really glad they're tackling these noisy vehicles, because as we know, they've already solved all the other crime in Bradford. Let me go look that up a second. Ah yes, Bradford, ranked number 1 in the country for violent crime[1]. Hang on a second... that means it's got the most violent crime, not the least. Weird. Guess we need to spend some more time cracking down on those loud exhausts. [1] https://www.plumplot.co.uk/Bradford-violent-crime-statistics.html https://www.plumplot.co.uk/Bradford-violent-crime-statistics...
loudthing 4y ago
I've always hated the phrase "boy racer". So condescending...
subjectsigma 4y ago
I live around Baltimore and this is kind of a problem as well. Dirt bikes are explicitly illegal but groups of young men with modded bikes ride around the city terrorizing people and the cops seemingly do nothing. They're very obviously doing it for attention because they go into crowded areas, rev their engines for a bit until they know everyone is looking at them, and then pop wheelies or shoot off fast or do other stunts. This would be very obnoxious but otherwise harmless except that in some areas they will drive on sidewalks, weave into other lanes, all kinds of stupid shit... Makes me really fucking mad to see it.

48 points by samizdis 4y ago

So, so, so easy to get destroyed... Let's wait for the next generation of street bandits using speakers as exhausts into their EV, it's gonna get funny to play with the ultrasonics into neighbourhoods full of dogs.

odiroot 4y ago

At first seems like a silly idea. But in reality we really need much better enforcement here. The amount of badly tuned cars is insane in England. It's like the only purpose these drivers have, in modding their cars, is to cause annoyance.

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
If a broad cross section of society cared there would be enforcement. You don't see blatant drunk driving or insane speed get ignored. If a cop sees that they at the very least turn into Mr. Krabs with dollar signs for eyes and get to enforcing. There's really not much societal appetite for that level of enforcement against people who are engaging in annoying but mostly harmless behavior that almost everyone will grow out of hence why dumb exhausts are mostly ignored except at the extremes.
- xdfgh1112 4y ago
  People do care, it just doesn't kill anyone like drunk driving does.
  - dsfyu404ed 4y ago
    How many people care? How much do they care? How much do they care about other stuff. This isn't high on most people's lists which is why they'll slap up a camera to make You People (I'm sure I'm dating myself with that reference) quit complaining and call it good. If it mattered a lot to a lot of people the average beat cop would have it on their KPIs every other quarter.
    - avianlyric 4y ago
      > average beat cop Hahaha, average beat cop, in the UK. We defund all those years ago. The police don’t have anywhere near enough time to deal with violent crime, never mind non-violent crime. The only way enforcement will work in the UK is with automated systems that let an officer review 100 cases an hour. Anything else costs too much time. Or we could fund our police properly, but given the current situation, it’s more likely they’ll see further cuts in the near future.
      - brigandish 4y ago
        There are actually more police per capita now than at times over the past 70 years when there were much lower numbers of both police and crime, but those periods also had much higher numbers of police on foot patrol.
- bryanlarsen 4y ago
  I think that's the point. People are starting to care about this a lot more, so are pressing for enforcement. I believe it's a combination of the problem getting worse, studies coming out showing how many health problems are caused by noise, and the Dutch example that we really can have quiet cities.
  - bartread 4y ago
    > the problem getting worse Where's your data? As a sort of petrolhead-lite with a penchant for 80s and 90s Japanese performance cars what I'm mostly aware of nowadays is how few substantially modified (badly or otherwise) cars there are around relative to the 90s and noughties. There used to be a website called barryboys.co.uk that was literally devoted to pouring mockery on badly modified cars, but it was closed down in 2019 due to a lack of new material: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=1348564 http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=134856.... There simply aren't as many badly modified cars around as there used to be. I used to see hilarious shitboxes on a day to day basis, but they're mostly gone nowadays. This culture peaked in the era of the first few Fast & Furious films, also coinciding with the time when games involving modification and tuning like Gran Turismo 1 - 4 and Need For Speed: Underground 1 & 2 were popular, and has been on the decline for at least a decade. I highly recommend a browse of this site, particularly the older posts, to see how bad it got. Shed of the Week is particularly entertaining: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=12 http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=12. Sure, you do still see young people meeting in cars in supermarket car parks on a Saturday night, and places like the Starbucks at the roundabout on the north orbital just across the M25 from Watford are certainly gathering grounds for cruisers, and people do still modify cars, but with nowhere near the ubiquity that you'd see 15 or 20 years ago. Not one of these people has ever given me the slightest bit of trouble (and no, it's not because I look like an aging boy racer - my last 3 cars have been a Rover 75, the ultimate Werthers Original sucking old-man-mobile, a Saab estate, and a Volvo estate; I definitely don't look like "one of them" these days).
- doix 4y ago
  I wish that was the case, but look at skateboarding. Back when I was still in the UK, I picked up a surf-skate to mess around on while there were no waves and quickly found out how much hate there was for skateboarders. It was almost comical, because people would tell us we don't look like "typical skateboarders", but we need to fuck off. Luckily some real skateboarders saw and gave us some tips on where to go. It was pretty eye opening, I had no clue that there was such disdain for skateboarders. Personally I rather people skateboarded than had those stupid cars.
  - 6LLvveMx2koXfwn 4y ago
    Not sure when you were last in the UK but almost every village[1] has a skate park now.* 1. https://www.skateparks.co.uk/park-finder/ https://www.skateparks.co.uk/park-finder/ * slight exaggeration
- dom96 4y ago
  > You don't see blatant drunk driving or insane speed get ignored. I see the very same people who have ridiculously loud cars also drive far too fast for the road they are on about as often as I hear their stupid cars. So yes, insane speed does get ignored just as much as the noise, at least from my perspective.
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- odiroot 4y ago
  > You don't see blatant drunk driving I do see blatant drunk driving, quite a lot actually. Every time my local pub closes.
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kypro 4y ago

As someone with auditory sensory overload I'm always amazed how much noise people are able to tolerate, and perhaps even enjoy? I don't even think the issue is custom exhausts or revving engines honestly, because it seems many stock motorbikes have incredibly loud exhausts already. Certainly loud enough to drown out speech. Yet no one seems to care. If I'm walking down the road having a conservation with someone then a noisy motorbike goes past people don't seem to react to the motorbike, instead they just instinctively start shouting at me so I can hear them over the bike as if that's a perfectly normal thing to do. Same thing seems to happen when I go into shops and restaurants these days. I feel like I'm going into a club or something, yet no one seems to notice until I point it out. The music is always so loud that people are literally shouting over the noise, yet no one thinks this weird. In fact they think I'm weird because I can't handle the noise in these kinds of places. I get I'm an outlier here, but I've always been amused by that. It seems to me people must actually like noise and shouting at each other because obviously no one is forcing anyone to buy really loud cars and bikes, nor is anyone forcing restaurants and shops to play music so loud you can't hear people speak. People seem to actually have a preference for loud exhausts and loud restaurants.

camtarn 4y ago
Stock motorbikes are actually pretty quiet these days, because there are laws about how loud legal exhausts can be. Even legendarily noisy Harley Davidsons come with quiet-ish exhausts by default. It's just that it's very common for people to swap them out, even if they're leaving the rest of the bike otherwise unmodified. And yeah. Can't speak for restaurants, but people really like loud exhausts. For one, there's a saying within biker circles, 'loud pipes save lives' - as in, if your exhaust is loud, people can hear you coming and you're less likely to get flattened by an oblivious driver. Whether or not that's true is very debatable (studies seem to say it makes no difference), but people believe it. And secondly, people do just like loud things in general - there's something about being kicked in the chest by pressure waves that seems very enjoyable.
- samizdis 4y ago
  > 'loud pipes save lives' - as in, if your exhaust is loud, people can hear you coming and you're less likely to get flattened by an oblivious driver. That's an interesting perspective, and not without merit. I've never been a biker, but I used to drive a customised classic vehicle (1958 Morris 1000 van) with atrocious rear visibility. Even in cold/wet weather, I'd keep my side widow rolled down just so that I could hear motorbikes, which the huge blindspots rendered invisible.

herrherrmann 4y ago

I’d love for my city’s government to do something similar. Peeps reving their engines and playing cool for no good reason in the middle of the night is such an asocial and egoistic behavior and ruins the quality of life for whole neighborhoods. Not to mention the terror it entails for the animals in the city.

sunnyam 4y ago

I think this is a great idea, but my concern is that these boy racers tend to stick to residential areas where you don't often get speed cameras, which makes me think that noise cameras will also be placed in areas that these people won't be driving.

Maxburn 4y ago
It sure seems like a waste of money to replace something as simple as a "fix it" ticket.

dexr 4y ago

nonrandomstring 4y ago
They have every right to :) But really, I've been studying this a bit and it's definitely boy racers. Now, biker girls... that's another thing. And let's speak plainly, it's all about sex and urban teenage mating rituals... the vestiges of rock-n-roll culture. The engine noise is a mating call. Bikes can be sexy with a noisy girl on, sure! But for cars it's "Boy Racers" (Barry Boyz) acting goofy. Their cars are meant to be ridiculous to attract attention. The places they rev-up are invariably outside the pub where there's a group of women standing around.
- blitzar 4y ago
  24 hour McDonalds parking lots are the traditional mating grounds of the teenager in the urban sprawl of britain.

zeristor 4y ago

New York's War on Noise: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/07/13/nyregion/nyc-noise-timeline.html https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013...

zeristor 4y ago

There seems to be a habit of people racing cars around the M25 in London at 01:00

yrgulation 4y ago
I used to live in a shack, err i mean “cozy studio”, close to the m25 and i could tell car models by their exhaust noise. Scooters and motorbikes where the most annoying, followed by “tuned” peugeots and similar small clunkers.

nonrandomstring 4y ago

It's a real shame, because we have a cultural problem of glorified ignorance. In a sense I feel sorry for these lads, because they are tinkerers, hackers of a kind like us, but with grossly curtailed opportunities for expression and exploration. When I was a kid, modding bikes and engines was everyday fun. Wouldn't they potentially be great engineers with the right guidance and education? But today they all follow the same dumb formula, sawing of the exhaust pipe and catalytic convertor, mis-tuning the engine, jacking down the suspension, doing a really shit paint job... The culture beneath that is basically anti-social, not individualistic. Sadly one has to wonder whether the days of 2-stroke scooters are also numbered in the UK. There are still lots of middle-aged Mods, you can find them by the hundreds at summer seaside town scooter rallies. But turning the air blue with the stench of two-stroke oil particulates seems less and less acceptable each year. Maybe I am growing long in the tooth. Now, don't get me started on inappropriate use of emergency vehicle sirens, which is the REAL noise pollution issue in Britain today.

junofan 4y ago
I think we’ve clamped down on the little people enough. There’s clearly a growing gap in freedom of expression between developing countries and us.
- jimmytidey 4y ago
  I'm afraid I can't see this as freedom of expression, what idea are they expressing? If this is about freedom of expression, isn't fly tipping a type of expression that should be protected? In terms of general freedom, the question is does it disproportionately affect others? The answer couldn't be clearer - where I live a single person cruising around in their modified vehicle can ruin the sleep of thousands of people. In terms of the law, this is already illegal, all that's happening is the law is being enforced. I'm responding to this comment because I think a lot of people have a similar, erroneous, reaction - isn't this just another freedom being taken away? In a way yes, but the costs to individual liberty are vastly outweighed by the consequences for those who happen to be near by. And, of course, you can always modify your car and drive round a private race track, no activity has been totally prohibited.

nivenkos 4y ago

They should just ban all ICE vehicles in cities. Problem solved, and far less air pollution too.

matja 4y ago
I'm sure some creative people will find a way to make an EV very noisy.
ls15 4y ago
> Problem solved Other problems caused
andrepd 4y ago
Great, you've solved 1 problem cars have (tailpipe emissions), but not the other 99.

theobeers 4y ago

When I lived by Lake Shore Drive in Chicago (down in Hyde Park), the noise of nighttime motorcycle races really bothered me. I was surprised because I never thought of myself as being sensitive to such things. But it was so, so loud, and they kept it up late into the night. Trying to crack down on this seems reasonable to me—at least insofar as we’re comfortable with traffic cameras in the first place.

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maxjones1 4y ago

sh4un 4y ago

dom96 4y ago

All I can say is: finally! This should be rolled out nationwide immediately, but especially in big cities ASAP. As I am typing this I have just heard a loud car that sounds like it's at least 5km away but is still very audible. I live in East London and the amount of cars that sound like explosions going off is absolutely ridiculous.

iicc 4y ago

https://www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/fuel-consumption-co2/fuel-consumption-guide/cars-and-noise/#topic-title https://www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/fuel-consump... >The external noise emitted by passenger cars has been controlled since 1929 when the Motor Cars (Excessive Noise) regulations were introduced. New cars are now required to meet Europe-wide noise limits. These have been progressively reduced from 82 decibels (dB (A)) in 1978 to the current limit of 72 dB (A) established in 2016.

SilverBirch 4y ago

Now let's play a game before reading the article, do we think these cameras are going to be installed in Knightsbridge where Russian, Middle Eastern and Indian billionaires' children hang around revving the bollocks off their Ferraris, or are these going to be installed on the outskirts of Grimsby trying to find a way of locking up that kid who's revving a 2003 Skoda Fabia? Drum roll please... Ah yes, it's Bradford. Yeah, that's right, they're spending thousands of pounds on noise cameras to address the real issue challenging Bradford- noise pollution. Good thing they didn't get distracted by any trivial issues like 30% of the children in Bradford living in poverty. I'm really glad they're tackling these noisy vehicles, because as we know, they've already solved all the other crime in Bradford. Let me go look that up a second. Ah yes, Bradford, ranked number 1 in the country for violent crime[1]. Hang on a second... that means it's got the most violent crime, not the least. Weird. Guess we need to spend some more time cracking down on those loud exhausts. [1] https://www.plumplot.co.uk/Bradford-violent-crime-statistics.html https://www.plumplot.co.uk/Bradford-violent-crime-statistics...

loudthing 4y ago

I've always hated the phrase "boy racer". So condescending...

subjectsigma 4y ago

I live around Baltimore and this is kind of a problem as well. Dirt bikes are explicitly illegal but groups of young men with modded bikes ride around the city terrorizing people and the cops seemingly do nothing. They're very obviously doing it for attention because they go into crowded areas, rev their engines for a bit until they know everyone is looking at them, and then pop wheelies or shoot off fast or do other stunts. This would be very obnoxious but otherwise harmless except that in some areas they will drive on sidewalks, weave into other lanes, all kinds of stupid shit... Makes me really fucking mad to see it.