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Is Truss Still PM?
- have_faith 4y agoTruss's situation is better described as a superposition until we observe her next action.
- yieldcrv 4y agoSchrödinger's PM?
- gchadwick 4y agoSee also the Liz Truss vs Lettuce live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-RE95lKJ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-RE95lKJ0
- yieldcrv 4y agodid she really publicly address the lettuce livestream?
- ollybee 4y agoSite could be improves with an RSS feed
- ale42 4y agoThere's no auto-update of the page if the status changes! ;-)
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- denton-scratch 4y agoThe page said "Yes"; the page is wrong. The new Chancellor of the Exchequer is not under Truss's control, he's under the control of men in grey suits. If Truss doesn't control cabinet ministers, she isn't the Prime Minister. We have no government; we need a General Election immediately. This is a very dangerous situation.
- atoav 4y ago[citation needed]
- jemmyw 4y agoIt's not dangerous. Other countries have managed with their parliamentary system out of action for extended amounts of time. That's the point of having strong institutions and a civil service. The Tories haven't totally destroyed that yet, despite their efforts.
- depr 4y agoIndeed Belgium was without (elected) government for 652 days in 2018 - 2020.
- denton-scratch 4y agoThe Belgian government system is quite different from the UK system.
- denton-scratch 4y agoBut it's not just the parliamentary system that's out of action; it's the government. The nominal head of the government is obviously a dead duck. The tune the chancellor is playing is being called by the Bank of England (and others unnamed), none of whom was elected, and none of whose policy preferences have been presented to the public, let alone approved. This would be a fantastic moment to stage a coup. And there are generals in-post who evidently favour something like that. But who knows - maybe it's already happened. I think it's dangerous.
- dvh 4y agohttps://isputindead.com/ https://isputindead.com/
- tokai 4y agohttp://www.isitfriday.org/ http://www.isitfriday.org/ :'(
- anotherevan 4y agoAnd of course, I've bookmarked that site to check on later to see if it handles time zones... sigh.
- the_mitsuhiko 4y agoShe might still be PM but it really feels like she was replaced with Hunt already.
- theironhammer 4y agoSomeone pointed out that Hunts run for leader got nowhere so it can't really be him that's in charge. It must be others (Tory Politburo) who told Truss to appoint Hunt.
- docdeek 4y agoFor fans of the cycling monuments: https://www.ismilansanremoexcitingyet.com https://www.ismilansanremoexcitingyet.com
- tokai 4y agoWe need an isstradebiancheamonumentyet.net.
- fdfaz 4y agoIs there any reason to think she's about to leave or is this some wishful thinking from the usual suspects?
- desiarnezjr 4y agoI'm betting by next week.
- DaedPsyker 4y agoIs the usual suspects her party colleagues? Feels like it's almost becoming a tradition in the conservative party at this point.
- daveoc64 4y agoHave you seen the news in the UK this week? She's had a terrible week (and that's saying something given her premiership to date). She had to sack the chancellor that enacted all of her campaign promises, bring in a new chancellor who has undone all of her campaign promises. Some of the polls coming out suggest the Conservatives would be in 3rd place at a General Election behind the SNP.
- argsnd 4y agoFourth behind the SNP in some cases.
- smcl 4y agoHoly shit I hadn't checked in a few weeks, but yeah if an election was held tomorrow they could potentially finish third: https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html
- drcongo 4y agoThere's a map here that graphically shows just what a wipeout it would be: https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1582039734846574592 https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/158203973484657459...
- klelatti 4y agoInteresting and relevant post from David Allen Green [1] about the historical origins of the title 'Prime Minister'. > It was a title that was used just to describe the most dominant minister of the day, the one who controlled the cabinet and had the confidence of parliament – usually the First Lord of the Treasury but sometimes not. > And if today one asked an alien looking down from space who was the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, that alien would assume it was Jeremy Hunt. [1] https://davidallengreen.com/2022/10/a-prime-minister-in-name-only/ https://davidallengreen.com/2022/10/a-prime-minister-in-name...
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y agoYes, they're now using the term PMINO for Truss.
- benrapscallion 4y agoFull form?
- llampx 4y agoPM in name only if I had to guess
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y agoPrime Minister In Name Only Easily checked at https://twitter.com/search?q=pmino&src=typed_query https://twitter.com/search?q=pmino&src=typed_query
- BerislavLopac 4y ago> that alien would assume it was Jeremy Hunt A real alien would realise that it was the Tufton Street gang.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y agoFrom a democratic point of view the only thing that makes sense to me now is a snap election. The Tories have now had one PM resign in disgrace and then seemingly failed to set up an acceptable new cabinet. I see no reason why they should keep their mandate without renewed voter support. I suppose the king could instruct Labour to try to form a minority cabinet, but that's beyond my understanding of the procedures of British parliamentary practice.
- Milner08 4y agoWithout an election Labour dont have enough seats to be an effective minority government. They would need either lots of support from other parties. Best option right now is an election, its really our only path to stability. But the Tories will hang on for as long as they can as they are expecting to be wiped out if they held an election right now.
- londons_explore 4y agoIt would be nice if there was a way for the people to request an election anytime. For example... Anyone can gather 100 signatures asking for an election. Then the electoral commission will select 1000 people at random from the electoral register and ask them "Should the UK hold an immediate election?". And then if the majority of those responding say yes, then an election happens.
- dane-pgp 4y agoA method similar to that should certainly be introduced for triggering recall elections of individual MPs (possibly with a condition that the expense of the by-election be covered by crowd-funding). To your point, though, there is "a way for the people to request an election anytime", and it has been used already, to little effect: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/when-next-general-election-liz-truss-jeremy-hunt-parliamnt-petition-b996692.html https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/when-next-general-e...
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- jzellis 4y agoThe morning's still young here in Greenwich Mean Time tho. :-D
- drooopy 4y agoGood thing that people voted for david cameron's "strong and stable" government back in 2015.
- true_religion 4y agoGood job on the speedy update.