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Same, the only refresh that I feel is genuinely bad is reddit. The problem with new reddit is that the usage pattern is totally different. Old reddit can be rap

Same, the only refresh that I feel is genuinely bad is reddit. The problem with new reddit is that the usage pattern is totally different. Old reddit can be rapidly browsed and only the posts that interest you are the ones that you give attention, in new reddit posts can’t be rapidly browsed and each one is supposed to grab your attention (in my opinion).

yellow_lead 4y ago
The fact that reddit still has old.reddit.com available is a testament to the failure of the new design.
- pizza 4y ago
  4 years and counting, blimey
- tinco 4y ago
  The new design is bad intentionally to improve their performance numbers, that it's still online and that the whole site didn't go the way of digg means they pretty much nailed it.
- infensus 4y ago
  I'd say a big part of this is the atrocious performance
- abenga 4y ago
  I keep hoping they'd disable this and shut the API to rif is fun, then I'd be able to quit Reddit permanently. I kid, I kid. But not really.
- favadi 4y ago
  IMO, it is not that the old reddit UI is very good, but the new reddit is just terrible. I wonder how many percent of users are sticking with the old UI.
  - Macha 4y ago
    Iirc, the figures for some prominent subreddits were shared and it was like 10% old Reddit, 20% new Reddit, 40% first party apps, 30% third party apps
- andrepd 4y ago
  Heck I still use i.reddit.com on mobile!
eloisant 4y ago
It's not just Reddit, Gmail also got worse with time. Even now when I look at Gmail 2004 I find it superior to the current UI.
- dijit 4y ago
  Controversially: I also much prefer the usability of older Windows operating systems, the scrollbars that don't hide, the double click semantics that are consistent across the whole OS. It might look a lot prettier now, but it's much harder to actually do things from zero knowledge, I do fear we've regressed.
  - scrlk 4y ago
    You might enjoy looking through the Windows interface guidelines from 1995 [PDF]: https://www.ics.uci.edu/~kobsa/courses/ICS104/course-notes/Microsoft_WindowsGuidelines.pdf https://www.ics.uci.edu/~kobsa/courses/ICS104/course-notes/M...
  - cies 4y ago
    Hence so many open source revival project of that UI. SerenityOS and many themes for open source desktops have a win95/win98(SE) look.
  - frankfrankfrank 4y ago
    I’m going to say something even more controversial, but true; that the obfuscated thing these two prior comments are really noting is a degradation that has been obscured in distracting color or design language changes. It’s akin to “shrinkflation” that is now even totally overshadowed by the real rise in prices they said wouldn’t happen, people are starting to notice things like “hey, why are there now far less features than 30 years ago, and why does it cost 10x as much?” ”New packaging, same great taste” the professional liars proclaim; as the box got emptier, the false bottom bigger, the air more voluminous, the filler lower quality. No, no. Worse things are in fact good for you. The party proclaimed it, so you are required to believe it. Or else. Even more controversial is both the cause and the remedy, for which the overwhelming number of people, especially on a site like this, have absolutely no interest in facing; so I will refrain from expanding on that. It’s irrelevant anyways, because the consequences are as inevitable as they were clearly predicted and suppressed. The abusive relationship that the western world in particular is currently in, remains largely furiously defended, like any other abusive relationship the abused have not yet faced reality about. That results in continued comments one can also see in these threads, proclaiming essentially how “no, no, degraded features and lower information density against my will is actually a good thing”, which is no different than “I would not get beaten if I just made smarter decisions”.
Vinnl 4y ago
I'm not sure how much of that is the UI, and how much of that is just that it's unbearably slow. I feel like the UI could work quite well if it actually loaded roughly instantly.

yellow_lead 4y ago

The fact that reddit still has old.reddit.com available is a testament to the failure of the new design.

pizza 4y ago
4 years and counting, blimey
tinco 4y ago
The new design is bad intentionally to improve their performance numbers, that it's still online and that the whole site didn't go the way of digg means they pretty much nailed it.
infensus 4y ago
I'd say a big part of this is the atrocious performance
abenga 4y ago
I keep hoping they'd disable this and shut the API to rif is fun, then I'd be able to quit Reddit permanently. I kid, I kid. But not really.
favadi 4y ago
IMO, it is not that the old reddit UI is very good, but the new reddit is just terrible. I wonder how many percent of users are sticking with the old UI.
- Macha 4y ago
  Iirc, the figures for some prominent subreddits were shared and it was like 10% old Reddit, 20% new Reddit, 40% first party apps, 30% third party apps
andrepd 4y ago
Heck I still use i.reddit.com on mobile!

eloisant 4y ago

It's not just Reddit, Gmail also got worse with time. Even now when I look at Gmail 2004 I find it superior to the current UI.

dijit 4y ago
Controversially: I also much prefer the usability of older Windows operating systems, the scrollbars that don't hide, the double click semantics that are consistent across the whole OS. It might look a lot prettier now, but it's much harder to actually do things from zero knowledge, I do fear we've regressed.
- scrlk 4y ago
  You might enjoy looking through the Windows interface guidelines from 1995 [PDF]: https://www.ics.uci.edu/~kobsa/courses/ICS104/course-notes/Microsoft_WindowsGuidelines.pdf https://www.ics.uci.edu/~kobsa/courses/ICS104/course-notes/M...
- cies 4y ago
  Hence so many open source revival project of that UI. SerenityOS and many themes for open source desktops have a win95/win98(SE) look.
- frankfrankfrank 4y ago
  I’m going to say something even more controversial, but true; that the obfuscated thing these two prior comments are really noting is a degradation that has been obscured in distracting color or design language changes. It’s akin to “shrinkflation” that is now even totally overshadowed by the real rise in prices they said wouldn’t happen, people are starting to notice things like “hey, why are there now far less features than 30 years ago, and why does it cost 10x as much?” ”New packaging, same great taste” the professional liars proclaim; as the box got emptier, the false bottom bigger, the air more voluminous, the filler lower quality. No, no. Worse things are in fact good for you. The party proclaimed it, so you are required to believe it. Or else. Even more controversial is both the cause and the remedy, for which the overwhelming number of people, especially on a site like this, have absolutely no interest in facing; so I will refrain from expanding on that. It’s irrelevant anyways, because the consequences are as inevitable as they were clearly predicted and suppressed. The abusive relationship that the western world in particular is currently in, remains largely furiously defended, like any other abusive relationship the abused have not yet faced reality about. That results in continued comments one can also see in these threads, proclaiming essentially how “no, no, degraded features and lower information density against my will is actually a good thing”, which is no different than “I would not get beaten if I just made smarter decisions”.

Vinnl 4y ago

I'm not sure how much of that is the UI, and how much of that is just that it's unbearably slow. I feel like the UI could work quite well if it actually loaded roughly instantly.