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> And the Indian devs work their ass off out of fear of getting PIP’d and with their work authorization, they lose their job means they have to leave the countr
by satellites 4y ago
> And the Indian devs work their ass off out of fear of getting PIP’d and with their work authorization, they lose their job means they have to leave the country.
This matches what I saw at Nike. Though it was a bit less extreme, it was the same dynamic. Indian-born workers got paid half what the American-born workers did for the same SWE jobs. And Indian workers couldn’t complain or push back against unrealistic expectations because getting fired meant getting deported. It’s a captive, exploitable labor force. It’s really messed up.
- Ancalagon 4y agoSame with Walmart
- mayankkaizen 4y agoDozens of my Indian friends who work in WITCH companies in overseas locations are actually quite happy with their salaries. They are dying to work in overseas projects. Guess they are more than happy being a part of captive, exploitable force.
- fire 4y agoWhat does WITCH stand for here? Haven't seen that acronym before
- zeristor 4y agoThe first company that came to mind was Wipro, which led me to this: W- Wipro I- Infosys T- TCS C- Cognizant H- HCL A- Accenture India. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27571707 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27571707
- robertlagrant 4y agoOut of that list, working horrible hours at Amazon looks preferable.
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- llampx 4y agoYou can be happy working at a lower salary, doesn't mean that its not exploitative or that it distorts the labor market. Especially with the knowledge that the company holds your residency in their hand.
- satellites 4y agoI bet they’d be even happier if they were paid the same as American workers, seeing as they’re doing the same job. If a minimum wage worker happens to enjoy what they do, that doesn’t mean that we should all settle for minimum wage. Your argument is toothless and blatantly anti-worker.
- nivenkos 4y agoSame for us Europoors. Joining meetings at Seattle time (like 7-8pm CET), meanwhile you're being paid less than half of what the American engineers earn at the same level. But they know there's so few options in Europe so they set the salaries according to "local market conditions".
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago>Joining meetings at Seattle time (like 7-8pm CET), In which country are you? We Europoors usually have labor laws to protect us from having to work so late. Where I live we have core working hours in our contract, 10:00 to 16:00, any work requests after that are voluntary for the employees. Is that not something you can use to push back on this?
- Bayart 4y agoLabour laws do not apply if you're freelancing, which you have to do most of the time for US companies.
- nivenkos 4y agoYeah, but good luck enforcing that with no trade union, nevermind if you're aiming for a promotion, etc. Like real worker power comes from having good economic conditions and strong trade unions - the American engineers have far more bargaining power, because they can easily get competing $150k-250k offers which are unimaginable in Europe.
- Fnoord 4y agoWell, I guess I'd be fired quickly because between 7 and 8 PM CET I put my kids to bed, usually fall asleep too.
- ignoramous 4y ago> Same for us Europoors. Mate, it isn't quite nearly the same for Europeans.
- emptysongglass 4y ago