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Hi Eric, thanks for this brilliant write-up. I see you touched on Private Relay and QUIC but chose to not discuss IETF MASQUE working group standardization of
by ignoramous 4y ago
Hi Eric, thanks for this brilliant write-up.
I see you touched on Private Relay and QUIC but chose to not discuss IETF MASQUE working group standardization of it. In general, as oblivious HTTP, IP over QUIC, Private Proxies over QUIC etc continues to gather pace (surprisingly, it is Google alongside Cloudflare and Apple leading the charge), do you think browsers bundling in tech (relays, proxies based on blind tokens etc) to mask IPs would be the default and free going forward? How do you see trackers adopt to this new reality, in that case?
Thanks.
- ekr____ 4y agoTo be honest, I meant to mention MASQUE as an aside, and it's in my notes somewhere to put in but it seems to have gotten lost. Anyway, I think it's great that we're seeing some new tech here, but it's of course been possible to do proxying in the browser using HTTP CONNECT for some time. The MASQUE piece is an incremental improvement over that. I think at some level the change is an increased awareness of the problem and more interest in doing something about it. It seems to me that the main obstacle to having really widespread proxying is financial: there are substantial incremental costs to proxying the traffic, someone needs to bear that. I expect this is why Private Relay is part of a iCloud+ rather than free for everyone. So, I'm not sure how that's going to shake out.