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It's hilarious how when I express displeasure about AI image generators looking likely to take a huge bite out of my profession of "artist" and playing extremel

It's hilarious how when I express displeasure about AI image generators looking likely to take a huge bite out of my profession of "artist" and playing extremely fast and loose with fair use, I get told that it's completely inevitable now and I should either retrain as a prompt engineer or go join the buggy whip manufacturers, but now that this is clearly violating programmer copyrights, you folks are starting to get angry. I'll just leave y'all with my favorite of the things you keep telling me to STFU about art AI with: If you're the kind of programmer who feels threatened by this, then you're not a real programmer.

bugfix-66 4y ago
You're absolutely right. Copilot and Dall-E (and so on) are all bad in the same way. Many of us agree with you.
corndoge 4y ago
Unless the image generators routinely generate specific works produced by you (or other artists) then it’s not a directly comparable situation to Copilot.
- kps 4y ago
  Like this? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32573523 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32573523 > I just got a Dall-E render with a very intact "gettyimages" watermark on it.
  - int_19h 4y ago
    Yes, this would be a good example of genuine copyright infringement that shouldn't be tolerated. Of course, it doesn't mean that all or even most DALL-E output infringes on someone's copyright. The same is true for Copilot. I think both have many legitimate uses if and when the "copyright laundering" issue is solved.
klyrs 4y ago
I'll admit it took me longer to connect the dots on this one but when I was tinkering with an image generator and it gave me a clear istockphoto watermark, I knew something was amiss.
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JamesBarney 4y ago
I'm a programmer, I don't really feel threatened by Github copilot. If the world can produce code more cheaply, the world becomes a much better place for everyone and a little worse place for developers. Overall seems like a good trade. (for the world)
rafaelero 4y ago
You are totally correct. I am embarassed by programmers complaining about that.

bugfix-66 4y ago

You're absolutely right. Copilot and Dall-E (and so on) are all bad in the same way. Many of us agree with you.

corndoge 4y ago

Unless the image generators routinely generate specific works produced by you (or other artists) then it’s not a directly comparable situation to Copilot.

kps 4y ago
Like this? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32573523 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32573523 > I just got a Dall-E render with a very intact "gettyimages" watermark on it.
- int_19h 4y ago
  Yes, this would be a good example of genuine copyright infringement that shouldn't be tolerated. Of course, it doesn't mean that all or even most DALL-E output infringes on someone's copyright. The same is true for Copilot. I think both have many legitimate uses if and when the "copyright laundering" issue is solved.

klyrs 4y ago

I'll admit it took me longer to connect the dots on this one but when I was tinkering with an image generator and it gave me a clear istockphoto watermark, I knew something was amiss.

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JamesBarney 4y ago

I'm a programmer, I don't really feel threatened by Github copilot. If the world can produce code more cheaply, the world becomes a much better place for everyone and a little worse place for developers. Overall seems like a good trade. (for the world)

rafaelero 4y ago

You are totally correct. I am embarassed by programmers complaining about that.