3 ms·

There are restaurants with only digital menus, there are bars that only take electronic payments, gyms that only have a digital membership card, parking lots on

There are restaurants with only digital menus, there are bars that only take electronic payments, gyms that only have a digital membership card, parking lots only payable via app, during covid there were countries that required quarantine apps on entry. Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity.

serf 4y ago
>Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity. conversely the only reason that these companies enforce such policies is because they get away with doing so and people participate.
s0rce 4y ago
I hate digital menus. I don't like being on my phone when I go out for dinner (unless I'm by myself) and looking at a nice menu was part of the experience.
- ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
  Seoul has been 'modernizing' bus stops. The route information, which used to be printed on posters at 1200 dpi, is now visible on large screens at 300 dpi, but the graphics have not been updated. As a result it is very challenging to see the details of most routes.
zdragnar 4y ago
Dang. Literally none of those things exist where I live in the US. In fact, there's a food truck that comes through every once in awhile that is still cash-only.
ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
This is doubly annoying as a tourist or immigrant: no, I don't have a local phone number, I don't have a bank account here, and I don't want to install $APP that is ubiquitous in your country but controlled by $Evilcorp. Examples from several different countries: getting around without rideshare/taxi hailing apps, 'self check-in' gyms, Covid-related QR codes to get into restaurants, stores that only take mobile payments, restaurants where the menu is only available by QR code.
ls15 4y ago
> Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity. Not only, you are also casting a vote: "I am very sorry, but I usually don't have my phone with me, seems like I need to bring my money to another business."
OJFord 4y ago
> Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity. I do say that, that all sounds crap and I don't want any of it even though I have a phone. (And it isn't my experience, I believe it exists but it's absolutely not hard to ignore.) Again, if they all-caps-hate it so much...
LtWorf 4y ago
> There are restaurants with only digital menus I've walked out of places because of that.

serf 4y ago

>Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity. conversely the only reason that these companies enforce such policies is because they get away with doing so and people participate.

s0rce 4y ago

I hate digital menus. I don't like being on my phone when I go out for dinner (unless I'm by myself) and looking at a nice menu was part of the experience.

ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
Seoul has been 'modernizing' bus stops. The route information, which used to be printed on posters at 1200 dpi, is now visible on large screens at 300 dpi, but the graphics have not been updated. As a result it is very challenging to see the details of most routes.

zdragnar 4y ago

Dang. Literally none of those things exist where I live in the US. In fact, there's a food truck that comes through every once in awhile that is still cash-only.

ravel-bar-foo 4y ago

This is doubly annoying as a tourist or immigrant: no, I don't have a local phone number, I don't have a bank account here, and I don't want to install $APP that is ubiquitous in your country but controlled by $Evilcorp. Examples from several different countries: getting around without rideshare/taxi hailing apps, 'self check-in' gyms, Covid-related QR codes to get into restaurants, stores that only take mobile payments, restaurants where the menu is only available by QR code.

ls15 4y ago

> Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity. Not only, you are also casting a vote: "I am very sorry, but I usually don't have my phone with me, seems like I need to bring my money to another business."

OJFord 4y ago

> Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity. I do say that, that all sounds crap and I don't want any of it even though I have a phone. (And it isn't my experience, I believe it exists but it's absolutely not hard to ignore.) Again, if they all-caps-hate it so much...

LtWorf 4y ago

> There are restaurants with only digital menus I've walked out of places because of that.