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Nuclear waste is tiny and contained. It kills no one when handled correctly, which it is. Coal and gas plants produce pollution that kills thousands every year

by mabbo 4y ago

Nuclear waste is tiny and contained. It kills no one when handled correctly, which it is. Coal and gas plants produce pollution that kills thousands every year, and that's how it's supposed to work. Meltdowns are next to impossible at correctly designed and built plants, which the German ones are.

Archelaos 4y ago
> It kills no one when handled correctly, which it is. This is not true. The German nuclear industry did not even manage to store low and intermediate level radioactive waste even remotely safely. Here is a report from July 2022 about the failure from German public television: https://www.ndr.de/geschichte/schauplaetze/Marodes-Atommuell-Endlager-Asse-Der-lange-Weg-zur-Raeumung,asse1410.html https://www.ndr.de/geschichte/schauplaetze/Marodes-Atommuell... The report is only availablöe in German, but you may run the accompanying documentation through the translator of your choice, to learn what happened. > Coal and gas plants produce pollution that kills thousands every year, and that's how it's supposed to work. Wrong alternative. We need 100% renewable. > Meltdowns are next to impossible at correctly designed and built plants, which the German ones are. People like you would have said that about Japan too, before 2011, and actively ignore what happend in Harrisburg in 1979 or Sellafield in 1957.
- hbgl 4y ago
  So since the 80s it is known that water enters the nuclear waste storage locations and how many people have died? None. Okay but how many people have faced any direct adverse consequences from it? Also none. And that isn't even a proper counter argument because the waste was not handled correctly in this instance.
  - Archelaos 4y ago
    That the waste was not handled correctly is exactly the issue. I agree: Nuclear energy is harmless as long as no accident happens, everything is handled properly and every possibility is taken care of. The problem is only that this is not the case.

by mabbo 4y ago

Archelaos 4y ago

> It kills no one when handled correctly, which it is. This is not true. The German nuclear industry did not even manage to store low and intermediate level radioactive waste even remotely safely. Here is a report from July 2022 about the failure from German public television: https://www.ndr.de/geschichte/schauplaetze/Marodes-Atommuell-Endlager-Asse-Der-lange-Weg-zur-Raeumung,asse1410.html https://www.ndr.de/geschichte/schauplaetze/Marodes-Atommuell... The report is only availablöe in German, but you may run the accompanying documentation through the translator of your choice, to learn what happened. > Coal and gas plants produce pollution that kills thousands every year, and that's how it's supposed to work. Wrong alternative. We need 100% renewable. > Meltdowns are next to impossible at correctly designed and built plants, which the German ones are. People like you would have said that about Japan too, before 2011, and actively ignore what happend in Harrisburg in 1979 or Sellafield in 1957.

hbgl 4y ago
So since the 80s it is known that water enters the nuclear waste storage locations and how many people have died? None. Okay but how many people have faced any direct adverse consequences from it? Also none. And that isn't even a proper counter argument because the waste was not handled correctly in this instance.
- Archelaos 4y ago
  That the waste was not handled correctly is exactly the issue. I agree: Nuclear energy is harmless as long as no accident happens, everything is handled properly and every possibility is taken care of. The problem is only that this is not the case.