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Will be interesting this century to see if increased sensor coverage in the ocean leads to more detection of USOs (unidentified submerged objects). Would love i

Will be interesting this century to see if increased sensor coverage in the ocean leads to more detection of USOs (unidentified submerged objects). Would love it if a curious billionaire would fund detection systems as anecdotally it seems USO and UFO (same thing?) activity is centered around oceans and coasts, especially off Santa Catalina Island as well as Virginia Beach.

b33j0r 4y ago
*UAP. There is something going on, but it’s very unclear what it is. Hard to tell right now if the “threat” knows it’s targeting military (might even be us), or if the military has the only sensors/opportunities to have these encounters. That said, let’s speed this up. The Kraken is always in the last 5%, and C’thulhu is always the very last place you look.
- Darkphibre 4y ago
  > C'thulhu is always the very last place you look. Inverse survivorship bias: That's because you are no longer able to look elsewhere...
  - hinkley 4y ago
    Would an ROV even register C'thulhu if it saw it?
    - arthurcolle 4y ago
      Falcon 2: 2-9 we're getting an awfully weird visual on the hyperspectral module feed, some kind of a strange formation off the coast of Florida, looks like some kind of winged tentacle monster waving his hands causing a landmass to rise out of the sea. Anyone else hearing something that sounds like "R'lyeh" on comms? Falcon 1: confirming Falcon 2's visual, seeing the same thing... and my dead son from a decade ago... transmission dies Falcon 2: Can't see nothing on the AV, wtf?
asdff 4y ago
Both virginia beach and catalina are near military infrastructure. Some of the channel islands are owned by the navy entirely. I'd wager that these are just training exercises by our own government. If the U.S. government had some new underwater based drone that could fool current gen fighters, they'd be testing this tech near their coastal military bases instead of in area 51 in the nevada desert because that's the only place to test this stuff out, near an ocean. Plus the bases are carrying out regular training sorties all the time anyhow, so there is always military equipment in the air that you can test against without having to plan a new flightplan and therefore raise suspicion just to test your equipment.
- rngname22 4y ago
  Counterargument: it could be that recent detections of UFOS are just more likely at these installations as that's where our best sensors are (our best ships and aircraft) most often, in other words there are other hotspots of activity but we don't have military sensors in those areas 24/7. But if a civilian group pushed on this, we'd at least find out where the limits are before gov/military stopping it. Actually, UAPx went and tried to record with sensors off Catalina but I believe only for a week. Loeb's Galileo Project will likely place optical sensors near these hotspots but haven't seen any mention by them of sonar or acoustic monitoring.
- sour-taste 4y ago
  Some UFO activity has been claimed by the Navy to not be them: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/pentagon-releases-three-ufo-videos-taken-by-us-navy-pilots https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/pentagon-relea... You don't need to believe them but that's what's been publicly said.
  - lazide 4y ago
    If it was too-secret-project-x, why tell the normal navy? Especially if it didn’t have or require a pilot that could get killed if someone shot it down.
- heavyset_go 4y ago
mixmastamyk 4y ago
https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-coast-ddt-dumping-ground/ https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-coast-ddt-dumping-ground...
mschuster91 4y ago
I'd hope so. There are a lot of cases where people end up missing with no traces left and random people such as YouTubers make a sport of it to search for lost vehicles underwater to assist search efforts, such as e.g. [1]. The problem is that at the moment pretty much the only technology available to map ocean floors at scale is sonar, which gets more imprecise with increasing depth. For individual SAR ops, robotic AUVs can be used such as in the search for the MH370 wreck, but as that effort has shown that doesn't scale well unless you can really narrow down the potential submergence site as was done with AF447. At the core, the enemy is simple physics - the deeper the body of water, the less light penetrates down to the sea floor, and anything RF-based is out of the game as well. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_GUJDLly6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_GUJDLly6A

b33j0r 4y ago

*UAP. There is something going on, but it’s very unclear what it is. Hard to tell right now if the “threat” knows it’s targeting military (might even be us), or if the military has the only sensors/opportunities to have these encounters. That said, let’s speed this up. The Kraken is always in the last 5%, and C’thulhu is always the very last place you look.

Darkphibre 4y ago
> C'thulhu is always the very last place you look. Inverse survivorship bias: That's because you are no longer able to look elsewhere...
- hinkley 4y ago
  Would an ROV even register C'thulhu if it saw it?
  - arthurcolle 4y ago
    Falcon 2: 2-9 we're getting an awfully weird visual on the hyperspectral module feed, some kind of a strange formation off the coast of Florida, looks like some kind of winged tentacle monster waving his hands causing a landmass to rise out of the sea. Anyone else hearing something that sounds like "R'lyeh" on comms? Falcon 1: confirming Falcon 2's visual, seeing the same thing... and my dead son from a decade ago... transmission dies Falcon 2: Can't see nothing on the AV, wtf?

asdff 4y ago

Both virginia beach and catalina are near military infrastructure. Some of the channel islands are owned by the navy entirely. I'd wager that these are just training exercises by our own government. If the U.S. government had some new underwater based drone that could fool current gen fighters, they'd be testing this tech near their coastal military bases instead of in area 51 in the nevada desert because that's the only place to test this stuff out, near an ocean. Plus the bases are carrying out regular training sorties all the time anyhow, so there is always military equipment in the air that you can test against without having to plan a new flightplan and therefore raise suspicion just to test your equipment.

rngname22 4y ago
Counterargument: it could be that recent detections of UFOS are just more likely at these installations as that's where our best sensors are (our best ships and aircraft) most often, in other words there are other hotspots of activity but we don't have military sensors in those areas 24/7. But if a civilian group pushed on this, we'd at least find out where the limits are before gov/military stopping it. Actually, UAPx went and tried to record with sensors off Catalina but I believe only for a week. Loeb's Galileo Project will likely place optical sensors near these hotspots but haven't seen any mention by them of sonar or acoustic monitoring.
sour-taste 4y ago
Some UFO activity has been claimed by the Navy to not be them: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/pentagon-releases-three-ufo-videos-taken-by-us-navy-pilots https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/pentagon-relea... You don't need to believe them but that's what's been publicly said.
- lazide 4y ago
  If it was too-secret-project-x, why tell the normal navy? Especially if it didn’t have or require a pilot that could get killed if someone shot it down.
heavyset_go 4y ago

mixmastamyk 4y ago

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-coast-ddt-dumping-ground/ https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-coast-ddt-dumping-ground...

mschuster91 4y ago

I'd hope so. There are a lot of cases where people end up missing with no traces left and random people such as YouTubers make a sport of it to search for lost vehicles underwater to assist search efforts, such as e.g. [1]. The problem is that at the moment pretty much the only technology available to map ocean floors at scale is sonar, which gets more imprecise with increasing depth. For individual SAR ops, robotic AUVs can be used such as in the search for the MH370 wreck, but as that effort has shown that doesn't scale well unless you can really narrow down the potential submergence site as was done with AF447. At the core, the enemy is simple physics - the deeper the body of water, the less light penetrates down to the sea floor, and anything RF-based is out of the game as well. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_GUJDLly6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_GUJDLly6A