No, you see, those were non-standard back when "non-standard" was demonized so we could give Microsoft shit for not doing what we want. We've sense realized th

No, you see, those were non-standard back when "non-standard" was demonized so we could give Microsoft shit for not doing what we want. We've sense realized that what we want to do isn't standard either, just in a different way from what IE did. Now we do whatever the fuck we want and wait for the standards to play catch-up. Native widgets with reliable behavior and useability be damned; it looks pretty and thats what we've always really wanted.