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First off, his name is Ye, and I actually like his music (though, let's be honest, Donda was never gonna live up to the hype). This isn't about me not liking t

by klyrs 4y ago

First off, his name is Ye, and I actually like his music (though, let's be honest, Donda was never gonna live up to the hype). This isn't about me not liking the guy. > Show me where Kanye is advocating for the annihilation of the Jews before you go citing baseless claims. Now, I didn't say he's been advocating for the annihilation of Jewish people, I said "blasting antisemitism." Antisemitism exists on a spectrum, and advocating for the annihilation of Jewish people is one point very far along that spectrum. If that's your actual threshold, you're definitely going to miss a lot of dogwhistles. But he's gotten pretty alarmingly close to exactly that: > I'm a bit sleepy tonight but when I wake up I'm going death con 3 On JEWISH PEOPLE. In case you're not familiar, defcon 3 is an elevated state of military readiness -- that the US hasn't seen since 9/11.

_gabe_ 4y ago
Thanks for the clarification. It doesn't help that Twitter has removed this, so all I can find are long winded articles about him saying this without actually showing it. This is clearly an antisemitic statement. It would be helpful if the media didn't post every single thing he's said about Jewish people claiming it's antisemitism, because that just muddies the waters and makes people more apt to believe the media is just lying.
trafficante 4y ago
The recent Drink Champs podcast is a weird mix of legit anti-semitism (“Jewish media blackballed me”) and, for lack of a better phrase, “advice to black people that they should copy behaviors that made Jews successful”. Stuff like investing in property and making sure your children have a career path lined up regardless of your personal success. His anecdote about Stevie Wonder’s kid being forced into a low end job to make ends meet is really sad if it’s true.
jklinger410 4y ago
Thank you for being the first person to bring up the tweet that this is all in reference to. HN sounding off about YE without knowing anything makes me question how I assume the authority of commenters here on other topics.

by klyrs 4y ago

_gabe_ 4y ago

Thanks for the clarification. It doesn't help that Twitter has removed this, so all I can find are long winded articles about him saying this without actually showing it. This is clearly an antisemitic statement. It would be helpful if the media didn't post every single thing he's said about Jewish people claiming it's antisemitism, because that just muddies the waters and makes people more apt to believe the media is just lying.

trafficante 4y ago

The recent Drink Champs podcast is a weird mix of legit anti-semitism (“Jewish media blackballed me”) and, for lack of a better phrase, “advice to black people that they should copy behaviors that made Jews successful”. Stuff like investing in property and making sure your children have a career path lined up regardless of your personal success. His anecdote about Stevie Wonder’s kid being forced into a low end job to make ends meet is really sad if it’s true.

jklinger410 4y ago

Thank you for being the first person to bring up the tweet that this is all in reference to. HN sounding off about YE without knowing anything makes me question how I assume the authority of commenters here on other topics.