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> Who in their right mind Activist politicians who value their cause more than the well being of their citizens.
by tomschlick 4y ago
> Who in their right mind
Activist politicians who value their cause more than the well being of their citizens.
- daniel-cussen 4y ago
- Siira 4y agos/cause/selves/g
- bennysonething 4y agoI think they don't value the cause more, they value the status the cause gives them
- hdjjhhvvhga 4y agoThis might be the sad reality of many once-authenthic-grassroot-movements.
- hef19898 4y agoOh yeah, that's why even the Greens (owning their whole existence as a political party to the anti-nuclear movement of the 80s and 90s) is in favor of keeping those plants online a little bit longer. Remember, the current, and hastly implemented nuclear exit, was a CDU led kneejerk reaction, and rollback of the exit from the exit of nuclear, after Fukushima.
- Phil_Latio 4y ago> that's why even the Greens is in favor of keeping those plants online a little bit longer. Since when? A few days, since the green party convention... Before that, the top figures unmistakenly said nuclear is dead, despite enegery crisis. > Remember, the current, and hastly implemented nuclear exit, was a CDU led kneejerk reaction So? And the greens would have exited even faster if they had the chance. Stop twisting things.
- MichaelCollins 4y agoI don't think this is fair. Although I think some among the anti-nuclear movement may have had subversive intent, most of the people who ended up aligning with that movement did have good intentions. They were reasoning that in the long term, nuclear power would bring great misery to humanity. Long term thinking is good, right? If you believe in the eventual probability of those doomsday scenarios, and you value the well being of your fellow citizens, then shouldn't you try to prevent that outcome? I see no moral fault here. And shaming these people isn't the solution. The solution is to bring them around to seeing the virtue of using nuclear power. They may be wrong about the relative safety of nuclear power but they aren't morally defective people, so shaming them isn't appropriate.
- ozim 4y agoThe road to hell is paved with good intention... Other one I would quote is "perfection is the enemy of good" - it seems nuclear is good, but they would not give up only on good. It had to be perfect where renewable sources are 100% ideal.
- luckylion 4y agoI agree. The problem with that position is that pretty much everyone ever believed that their actions would make things better, even if they were very wrong and just made everything worse. Nevertheless, I don't think the anti-nuclear movement is evil. They're guided by extreme fear, not malice. I don't know how you can bring them around though, unless your offering some form of therapy. But even with that, would they accept it? Would you accept therapy to change some of your deeply held beliefs that you don't view as 'wrong'?
- konschubert 4y agoSome people do things that they know are bad for others because they want to hurt others.
- luckylion 4y agoSure, but I don't believe you run into a lot of actually evil villains in politics that only do what they do because they want to see suffering and want their action to scale instead of ripping the wings from a butterfly one by one. Stalin or Mao didn't just enjoy seeing peasants starve, they believed that sacrificing a million here and there is the price to pay for the communist utopia they thought they were building.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoDon't forget the corrupt politicians who've been bribed with a cushy job.
- sveme 4y agoAny specifics you would like to mention?