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>I would wager greatly that it's not that he's grown cynical to people saying he can't do something, but that he's become delusional from people telling him a g

>I would wager greatly that it's not that he's grown cynical to people saying he can't do something, but that he's become delusional from people telling him a genius. I've been wary of defending Kanye online lately, but Kanye's influence isn't just "rap / hip hop". Kanye also broke into luxury/high-end fashion quite unexpectedly where he was given the same sort of push back. It started with him interning at Fendi (when he already was one of the largest entertainers on the planet) alongside a group of other eclectic individuals (the other most notable one, Virgil Abloh, who would go on to become creative director of Louis Vuitton). He captured lightning twice and I can't imagine that developing into a personality into anything other than "everyone else is wrong". That said, I don't think he's become delusional from people telling him he's a "genius", or from mental illness. Since 2020, I've seen scores of people all fall into the internet misinformation pipeline and I don't think Kanye is any different - he just has the largest platform. He's no more mentally ill than your uncle who believed COVID was a hoax. Everything he is saying is currently "mainstream" conservative ideology, his talking points are lifted directly from Candace Owens who is employed by The Daily Wire, which is run by the most famous conservative personality, Ben Shapiro, (maybe after Tucker Carlson).

sanderjd 4y ago
I think Kanye actually is more mentally ill than our misguided uncles. I believe he has even spoken about his struggles with it during more lucid times.
cwkoss 4y ago
I think you're significantly overstating his impact on the fashion world.
LegitShady 4y ago
>Kanye also broke into luxury/high-end fashion the secret here is that the emperor has no clothes, and Kanye's fashion garbage is equally as garbage as the rest of the high end fashion culture. It's not that kanye's that good, it's that its all a crock of dogfood with high end price tags and people who won't say anything trying to fit in for access to the wealthy.
- notjulianjaynes 4y ago
  I own a pair of DH Gate "Feezys" purchased for $40. They're comfy, stylish, and surprisingly durable. 3 years of semi regular wear and they're just getting to the point where they look ragged and shitty. I'm strongly considering ordering a new pair of knockoffs simply because they're just a well designed casual athletic shoe. Comparable to something like Vans, except they don't fall apart in 5 months. I personally wouldn't pay $300+ for them. A lot of his fashion design has a similar utilitarian theme to it, and I believe that the intent with his partnership with GAP was to more or less have an outlet to offer his designs at a more affordable price. Although I could be mistaken. (I acknowledge the fact that the price of my shoes is because of either some fraudulent factory manager skimming product and/or bad labor practices and that's a bit shitty of me. But they're simple shoes, there is certainly a very high markup on the authentic versions too.)
- nemothekid 4y ago
  >Kanye's fashion garbage is equally as garbage as the rest of the high end fashion culture. This is not something I agree with, I believe there is something like called good taste (http://www.paulgraham.com/goodtaste.html http://www.paulgraham.com/goodtaste.html), and just because I don't care to understand it (just like I don't care to understand expensive cars or expensive watches), that doesn't mean the entire field is garbage.
  - LegitShady 4y ago
    just because good taste exists doesn't mean it exists in the luxury fashion industry or any particular location or time. Good taste exists but not there. It's overpriced gaslighting dogfood at best, a meat market to gain access to the stupidly wealthy at worst.
- filoleg 4y ago
  Just because you don't understand an entire art-form and the industry attached to it, that doesn't make it all "garbage". Might as well go on to say that all modern art or modern cuisine is garbage, and sound just as ridiculous while doing so. Spoiler alert: weird artsy high-fashion pieces you see on runways are not expected to be sold or worn in real life. Just like visual design of concept cars isn't what's expected to actually drive on the roads.

sanderjd 4y ago

I think Kanye actually is more mentally ill than our misguided uncles. I believe he has even spoken about his struggles with it during more lucid times.

cwkoss 4y ago

I think you're significantly overstating his impact on the fashion world.

LegitShady 4y ago

>Kanye also broke into luxury/high-end fashion the secret here is that the emperor has no clothes, and Kanye's fashion garbage is equally as garbage as the rest of the high end fashion culture. It's not that kanye's that good, it's that its all a crock of dogfood with high end price tags and people who won't say anything trying to fit in for access to the wealthy.

notjulianjaynes 4y ago
I own a pair of DH Gate "Feezys" purchased for $40. They're comfy, stylish, and surprisingly durable. 3 years of semi regular wear and they're just getting to the point where they look ragged and shitty. I'm strongly considering ordering a new pair of knockoffs simply because they're just a well designed casual athletic shoe. Comparable to something like Vans, except they don't fall apart in 5 months. I personally wouldn't pay $300+ for them. A lot of his fashion design has a similar utilitarian theme to it, and I believe that the intent with his partnership with GAP was to more or less have an outlet to offer his designs at a more affordable price. Although I could be mistaken. (I acknowledge the fact that the price of my shoes is because of either some fraudulent factory manager skimming product and/or bad labor practices and that's a bit shitty of me. But they're simple shoes, there is certainly a very high markup on the authentic versions too.)
nemothekid 4y ago
>Kanye's fashion garbage is equally as garbage as the rest of the high end fashion culture. This is not something I agree with, I believe there is something like called good taste (http://www.paulgraham.com/goodtaste.html http://www.paulgraham.com/goodtaste.html), and just because I don't care to understand it (just like I don't care to understand expensive cars or expensive watches), that doesn't mean the entire field is garbage.
- LegitShady 4y ago
  just because good taste exists doesn't mean it exists in the luxury fashion industry or any particular location or time. Good taste exists but not there. It's overpriced gaslighting dogfood at best, a meat market to gain access to the stupidly wealthy at worst.
filoleg 4y ago
Just because you don't understand an entire art-form and the industry attached to it, that doesn't make it all "garbage". Might as well go on to say that all modern art or modern cuisine is garbage, and sound just as ridiculous while doing so. Spoiler alert: weird artsy high-fashion pieces you see on runways are not expected to be sold or worn in real life. Just like visual design of concept cars isn't what's expected to actually drive on the roads.