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I don't know much about Kanye, but are reports of people telling him he didn'h have talent to be a rapper genuine, or just something he tells people? Because it
by c3534l 4y ago
I don't know much about Kanye, but are reports of people telling him he didn'h have talent to be a rapper genuine, or just something he tells people? Because it sounds like the sort of thing people make up for their own personal narrative. It reminds me of when people say things like "the doctor told me I only had a year to live" - which is something no doctor would actually say because its a massive legal liability, but it fits our personal narrative. Who were these people Kanye had to overcome?
- ls15 4y agoMost artists have to deal with rejection at some point
- x86_64Ubuntu 4y agoParent commenter is reading too much into Kanye's first struggles to become a rapper in light of this Parler purchase. But parent commenter is right that no one saw Kanye as a rapper initially. Back then, Kanye was only known as a beatsmith and producer, not someone to actually be on the track. Kanye has a song off his album College Graduation where he talks about his initial troubles[1] [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbeS15sHZ0&ab_channel=KanyeWest-Topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbeS15sHZ0&ab_channel=Kanye...
- selimthegrim 4y agoI believe it is also mentioned in Through the Wire
- filoleg 4y agoIt was genuine. He worked hard to get good at making beats, to the point he got signed at Roc-a-Fella Records to make beats for big artists at the time (Jay-Z, Alicia Keys, etc). He was super known for that in the industry, but Kanye insisted on one specific term of the contract - they gotta let him release his own album. Which they hesitantly allowed, because they thought he was just gonna fail and go back to what they thought he was good at, making beats for other rappers. They didnt want him to be a rapper, but not for some malicious reason. They loved his beats, but thought no one would care for his songs that were nothing like the mainstream rap at the time, especially since none of them were about bling/drugs/gang stuff. That's just what was selling. And Roc-a-Fella Records wanted their star beatmaker actually making beats for their star rappers, not "pursue dreams". So they allowed him to make that album, thinking the sooner he is done with it, the sooner he will get back to beatmaking. All of this is confirmed by tons of other people affiliated with Roc-a-Fella Records (like Jay-Z and others) at the time.
- cwkoss 4y agoA brief dispute over contract terms is not the adversity his stans make it out to be.
- kgwxd 4y ago> All of this is confirmed by tons of other people affiliated with Roc-a-Fella Records (like Jay-Z and others) at the time. They're in on the story.
- notduncansmith 4y agoI’m not buying this Kanspiracy theory.
- jprd 4y agoI don't know if you coined that or not, but I will forever claim you did regardless.
- filoleg 4y agoI mean, it's the same story now that's been told since the time all of this was happening, and Kanye was indeed having issues with his first album getting even published. And it is also true that pretty much everyone expected his first album to flop. Unless literally everything said about the matter by everyone involved was an extremely consistent lie that they all conspired to perfectly maintain for 20+ years and ongoing, I find it very difficult to agree with your statement.
- kgwxd 4y agoThe entertainment industry is built on fictional stories, his overarching theme is "victim". I'm sure the people that benefit from being associated with Kanye in even the slightest way are perfectly happy to support the narrative he tries to spin, they might even believe it.
- glomgril 4y agoEven among fans, early Kanye was never considered a great rapper (although he was always considered an elite producer). It always felt clear to me that he'd be around and doing big things in the music industry for many years, but I kinda assumed he'd be much more behind the scenes and focusing on production.