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> I refer to things like attaching counter opinions to opinions of people with high visibility for example That's what fact-checking is. It's widely heckled.

mrtksn 4y ago
The problem with fact checking is the presumption of authority over the truth. I don't suggest fact checking, I suggest equal exposure to contesting ideas. I guess NASA tweets might receive pairs who claim that the Earth is not a globe :) That's OK, NASA can respond to these with equal visibility and if people are not convinced I guess NASA would need more convincing arguments.
- triceratops 4y ago
  All your "free thinkers" that are browsing these posts for 5 minutes while they take a dump won't be taken in by the mere stamp of authoritativeness on the fact-check posts, right? I mean, obviously all users are able to make good judgments and competently weigh all the facts on every topic. Why are you so worried? What makes a fact check post more authoritative than NASA? Btw I'm not advocating for active suppression of ideas. I just understand if a particular company chooses to do it on their website. I'd do the same in their place. It's not their job to give everyone a voice.
themitigating 4y ago
Is saying something is widely heckled similar to when someone says "we all know.." before making a controversial statement?
- triceratops 4y ago
  I wasn't aware "many prominent people don't like fact-checking" was a statement that needed a citation. In any case, you're free to disagree with that. I don't really care enough to try to prove it to you.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    According to a Pew Research poll "do fact checkers favor tend to favor one political side" It's split down the middle https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/27/republicans-far-more-likely-than-democrats-to-say-fact-checkers-tend-to-favor-one-side/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/27/republicans... As to prominent people- What do you consider prominent, would most people agree with that, and do you have a poll of these people. Saying most prominent people blah blah blah is debatable on two levels
    - triceratops 4y ago
      Your own link says that nearly half of all Americans and 70% of Republicans think fact-checking is biased. That's the attitude I was referencing when I said that fact-checking is "widely heckled". If half of an audience boos you, that's a lot of booing. I have no idea what you're arguing. Your own link says what I said. I'm not saying anything about the fact-checking itself. I'm not on Twitter or Facebook. I haven't seen any fact-check posts. I'm sure they try their best to be accurate. I prefer to get my information about the most hoax-prone topics from authoritative sources - primary sources, news agencies, newspapers of record - the more boring, the better.

mrtksn 4y ago

The problem with fact checking is the presumption of authority over the truth. I don't suggest fact checking, I suggest equal exposure to contesting ideas. I guess NASA tweets might receive pairs who claim that the Earth is not a globe :) That's OK, NASA can respond to these with equal visibility and if people are not convinced I guess NASA would need more convincing arguments.

triceratops 4y ago
All your "free thinkers" that are browsing these posts for 5 minutes while they take a dump won't be taken in by the mere stamp of authoritativeness on the fact-check posts, right? I mean, obviously all users are able to make good judgments and competently weigh all the facts on every topic. Why are you so worried? What makes a fact check post more authoritative than NASA? Btw I'm not advocating for active suppression of ideas. I just understand if a particular company chooses to do it on their website. I'd do the same in their place. It's not their job to give everyone a voice.

themitigating 4y ago

Is saying something is widely heckled similar to when someone says "we all know.." before making a controversial statement?

triceratops 4y ago
I wasn't aware "many prominent people don't like fact-checking" was a statement that needed a citation. In any case, you're free to disagree with that. I don't really care enough to try to prove it to you.
- themitigating 4y ago
  According to a Pew Research poll "do fact checkers favor tend to favor one political side" It's split down the middle https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/27/republicans-far-more-likely-than-democrats-to-say-fact-checkers-tend-to-favor-one-side/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/27/republicans... As to prominent people- What do you consider prominent, would most people agree with that, and do you have a poll of these people. Saying most prominent people blah blah blah is debatable on two levels
  - triceratops 4y ago
    Your own link says that nearly half of all Americans and 70% of Republicans think fact-checking is biased. That's the attitude I was referencing when I said that fact-checking is "widely heckled". If half of an audience boos you, that's a lot of booing. I have no idea what you're arguing. Your own link says what I said. I'm not saying anything about the fact-checking itself. I'm not on Twitter or Facebook. I haven't seen any fact-check posts. I'm sure they try their best to be accurate. I prefer to get my information about the most hoax-prone topics from authoritative sources - primary sources, news agencies, newspapers of record - the more boring, the better.