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For what it's worth, these questions have been asked in the context of women/men and sexual conduct. The pendulum swung from "women are ridiculed for being vict

For what it's worth, these questions have been asked in the context of women/men and sexual conduct. The pendulum swung from "women are ridiculed for being victims" to "men can't be victims and women are always victims". Research is now coming out that a lot of male victims go unnoticed and quite a few women are misusing the status quo. Now the pendulum threatens to swing back to "women are ridiculed" again. The question itself only matters if no method exists where the pendulum can be dampened more quickly. Given history, there is reason to believe such a method exists.

PuppyTailWags 4y ago
Yes, in the context of sexual misconduct what is the percentage of victims who are actually victims? Like if narcissists lying about sexual misconduct is statistically a rounding error, that's really important to know.
- BlargMcLarg 4y ago
  This is changing all the time due to the way it is reported, extrapolation, etc. But let's be extreme and pretend half are false. Of the half that are false, only a portion has a narcissist false flagging. All the cases are man on woman. Now I don't believe the number of false accussations is close to half (yet, anyway), but even if it were, ask yourself: Would you want to ignore the half of true victims, Would you utilize an aggressive method (e.g. Duluth model) or utilize a safer method, if you know one exists, and Does any of this mean woman on man sexual misconduct should be downplayed? Sure, the actual statistics matter once trade offs come into play. But people are already failing the basic litmus test of answering the questions above. And that's how the pendulum of grief swings on.
  - PuppyTailWags 4y ago
    I'm not asking about hypotheticals. I want to know any actual studies or even attempts at studies. There's no point in speculating about pendulums or anything if there aren't basic numbers and population sizes to work with. If people are funding research to determine how often narcissists accuse falsely of sexual misconduct I'd be interested to know what percentage of sexual misconduct are false to begin with so I know how to contextualize the study.

PuppyTailWags 4y ago

Yes, in the context of sexual misconduct what is the percentage of victims who are actually victims? Like if narcissists lying about sexual misconduct is statistically a rounding error, that's really important to know.

BlargMcLarg 4y ago
This is changing all the time due to the way it is reported, extrapolation, etc. But let's be extreme and pretend half are false. Of the half that are false, only a portion has a narcissist false flagging. All the cases are man on woman. Now I don't believe the number of false accussations is close to half (yet, anyway), but even if it were, ask yourself: Would you want to ignore the half of true victims, Would you utilize an aggressive method (e.g. Duluth model) or utilize a safer method, if you know one exists, and Does any of this mean woman on man sexual misconduct should be downplayed? Sure, the actual statistics matter once trade offs come into play. But people are already failing the basic litmus test of answering the questions above. And that's how the pendulum of grief swings on.
- PuppyTailWags 4y ago
  I'm not asking about hypotheticals. I want to know any actual studies or even attempts at studies. There's no point in speculating about pendulums or anything if there aren't basic numbers and population sizes to work with. If people are funding research to determine how often narcissists accuse falsely of sexual misconduct I'd be interested to know what percentage of sexual misconduct are false to begin with so I know how to contextualize the study.