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Early Kanye West brought a lot of attention to social issues through his music and was one of the first hip-hop artists to publicly advocate for acceptance of g

Early Kanye West brought a lot of attention to social issues through his music and was one of the first hip-hop artists to publicly advocate for acceptance of gay folks in hip-hop culture at a time when gay slurs were very common. His first album was downright wholesome as far as hip-hop and there's a reason he was so beloved. He's been on a long, slow, downward trajectory with his mental health since the death of his mother and unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anybody looking out for him anymore. It's really sad to watch at this point. This is an interview from 2005 where Kanye defended gay people when it wasn't exactly popular. Trigger warning for gay slurs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp45-dQvqPo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp45-dQvqPo

spywaregorilla 4y ago
I don't feel that's particularly incompatible with anything I said.
- dcow 4y ago
  GP is simply offering some context since you said you don't know Kanye at all and have only encountered him recently. It was never intended to be incompatible.
  - spywaregorilla 4y ago
    Fair I guess. I'm not sure about the "recently" comment though. He's been making a ruckus for well over a decade now.
    - nwienert 4y ago
      He’s an artist, he’s supposed to be messy. But you also clearly have no idea who he is and what’s he’s stood for - the guy is single-handedly responsible for turning the tide on Gangster rap. Here’s one way to put it: No other man alive today is more responsible for changing negative to positive messages in popular music today. He’s literally one of the most thoughtful and revolutionary artists alive. But of course you’d have to have listened to his albums from the start and followed along with interviews not just reading all the headlines on Reddit or Twitter. And no, he hasn’t degraded. Ye, TLOP, Kids See Ghosts, Jesus is King are all massively successful unique pieces of art. It’s hard to compare him to anyone - MJ stayed within one genre, only really the Beatles maybe had as much diversity of novel styles. If you only pay attention to the media you’d have your opinion. It’s so out of wack with reality though. But that’s what we have all across this entire forsaken thread - a bunch of totally naive people who aren’t even 1% familiar with his corpus of work or history calling him sick and worse.
tmpz22 4y ago
> one of the first hip-hop artists to publicly advocate for acceptance of gay folks in hip-hop culture That's interesting - I've listened to his music since the beginning and would've assumed the opposite based on his reaction to the South Park Fish Sticks episode. Is there a specific song/album/statement he made that shows support for the LGBT community? As he's turned deeply religious (supports mega churches) + conservative in recent years I'd further expect him to not support LGBT groups.
- zoklet-enjoyer 4y ago
  "You can still love your man and be manly dog" referring to his cousin https://youtu.be/JwAjANmjajc https://youtu.be/JwAjANmjajc
- dahfizz 4y ago
  > Is there a specific song/album/statement he made that shows support for the LGBT community? The comment you replied to has a YouTube link to a 2005 interview where Kanye says on national TV to stop discriminating against gay people.
b0bb1z3r0 4y ago

spywaregorilla 4y ago

I don't feel that's particularly incompatible with anything I said.

dcow 4y ago
GP is simply offering some context since you said you don't know Kanye at all and have only encountered him recently. It was never intended to be incompatible.
- spywaregorilla 4y ago
  Fair I guess. I'm not sure about the "recently" comment though. He's been making a ruckus for well over a decade now.
  - nwienert 4y ago
    He’s an artist, he’s supposed to be messy. But you also clearly have no idea who he is and what’s he’s stood for - the guy is single-handedly responsible for turning the tide on Gangster rap. Here’s one way to put it: No other man alive today is more responsible for changing negative to positive messages in popular music today. He’s literally one of the most thoughtful and revolutionary artists alive. But of course you’d have to have listened to his albums from the start and followed along with interviews not just reading all the headlines on Reddit or Twitter. And no, he hasn’t degraded. Ye, TLOP, Kids See Ghosts, Jesus is King are all massively successful unique pieces of art. It’s hard to compare him to anyone - MJ stayed within one genre, only really the Beatles maybe had as much diversity of novel styles. If you only pay attention to the media you’d have your opinion. It’s so out of wack with reality though. But that’s what we have all across this entire forsaken thread - a bunch of totally naive people who aren’t even 1% familiar with his corpus of work or history calling him sick and worse.

tmpz22 4y ago

> one of the first hip-hop artists to publicly advocate for acceptance of gay folks in hip-hop culture That's interesting - I've listened to his music since the beginning and would've assumed the opposite based on his reaction to the South Park Fish Sticks episode. Is there a specific song/album/statement he made that shows support for the LGBT community? As he's turned deeply religious (supports mega churches) + conservative in recent years I'd further expect him to not support LGBT groups.

zoklet-enjoyer 4y ago
"You can still love your man and be manly dog" referring to his cousin https://youtu.be/JwAjANmjajc https://youtu.be/JwAjANmjajc
dahfizz 4y ago
> Is there a specific song/album/statement he made that shows support for the LGBT community? The comment you replied to has a YouTube link to a 2005 interview where Kanye says on national TV to stop discriminating against gay people.

b0bb1z3r0 4y ago