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Shumai: Fast Differentiable Tensor Library in TypeScript with Bun and Flashlight

75 points by brrrrrm 4y ago

kbd 4y ago
It's interesting that this was built for Bun (vs other js runtimes) because of its specific properties. Cool to see Bun emerge early as Zig's "killer app".
4pkjai 4y ago
I shouldn't be annoyed by this, but as a Cantonese speaker I really dislike this name.
- lgessler 4y ago
  Genuinely curious: for what reason?
  - joshxyz 4y ago
    Filipino here. it's a slang term for dimsum food! haha. We spell it as siomai though.
    - whimsicalism 4y ago
      > it's a slang term for dimsum food! My guess is that is intentional...
  - faitswulff 4y ago
    Shumai is a Mandarin Chinese romanization of the name of a dim sum dish. Dim sum in general is a southern / Cantonese tradition. It’s typically siumai in Cantonese.
    - faitswulff 4y ago
      我说错了哎呀是烧麦shaomai不是shumai。shumai是日本语的
- powerapple 4y ago
  what's not to like it? It is delicious.
- maxloh 4y ago
  Is that "燒賣"? As a HongKonger I didn't learn much about pinyin.
- brrrrrm 4y ago
  Due to the overly westernized transliteration?
  - numpad0 4y ago
    Or Japonic? Most of kanji transliterations on the Internet are Japanese based, but since Japanese is an isolate language of unknown origin[1], they might sound weird in the bulk of East Asia where Chinese languages are predominantly spoken or otherwise not insignificant. 1: Technically not; languages in rural Japanese islands are no longer considered dialects, and as such the language is not the sole member of its family. The origin is still unknown.
  - xdfgh1112 4y ago
    That is how it's written in Japanese (technically shuumai), and you know how programmers love to name things after random Japanese words.
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- the_optimist 4y ago
  There are many variants and spellings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shumai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shumai
whimsicalism 4y ago
Flashlight is a really kickass ML library and the only good alternative to torch on C++ that I know of. Excited to see what this will enable.
william-evans 4y ago
This is very exciting. Given the size of the JavaScript/TypeScript community it was missing something like this, especially, for proof-of-concept use cases.
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75 points by brrrrrm 4y ago

kbd 4y ago

It's interesting that this was built for Bun (vs other js runtimes) because of its specific properties. Cool to see Bun emerge early as Zig's "killer app".

4pkjai 4y ago

I shouldn't be annoyed by this, but as a Cantonese speaker I really dislike this name.

lgessler 4y ago
Genuinely curious: for what reason?
- joshxyz 4y ago
  Filipino here. it's a slang term for dimsum food! haha. We spell it as siomai though.
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    > it's a slang term for dimsum food! My guess is that is intentional...
- faitswulff 4y ago
  Shumai is a Mandarin Chinese romanization of the name of a dim sum dish. Dim sum in general is a southern / Cantonese tradition. It’s typically siumai in Cantonese.
  - faitswulff 4y ago
    我说错了哎呀是烧麦shaomai不是shumai。shumai是日本语的
powerapple 4y ago
what's not to like it? It is delicious.
maxloh 4y ago
Is that "燒賣"? As a HongKonger I didn't learn much about pinyin.
brrrrrm 4y ago
Due to the overly westernized transliteration?
- numpad0 4y ago
  Or Japonic? Most of kanji transliterations on the Internet are Japanese based, but since Japanese is an isolate language of unknown origin[1], they might sound weird in the bulk of East Asia where Chinese languages are predominantly spoken or otherwise not insignificant. 1: Technically not; languages in rural Japanese islands are no longer considered dialects, and as such the language is not the sole member of its family. The origin is still unknown.
- xdfgh1112 4y ago
  That is how it's written in Japanese (technically shuumai), and you know how programmers love to name things after random Japanese words.
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the_optimist 4y ago
There are many variants and spellings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shumai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shumai

whimsicalism 4y ago

Flashlight is a really kickass ML library and the only good alternative to torch on C++ that I know of. Excited to see what this will enable.

william-evans 4y ago

This is very exciting. Given the size of the JavaScript/TypeScript community it was missing something like this, especially, for proof-of-concept use cases.

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