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Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? Same situation. Can't a rich dude buy a company without goofy rumors being spread (scammed into buying Parler)? Having

Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? Same situation. Can't a rich dude buy a company without goofy rumors being spread (scammed into buying Parler)? Having a celebrity owner increases the value.

detaro 4y ago
I don't think Kanye West saying that he suffers from bipolar disorder is a rumor.
- P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul 4y ago
  People with bipolar disorder aren't capable of making rational decisions? And Elon is just a completely normal guy?
  - aerostable_slug 4y ago
    > People with bipolar disorder aren't capable of making rational decisions? In the midst of an uncontrolled manic episode? Often they are not.
    - ponow 4y ago
      So who should be held responsible for their decision then? Who gets to decide?
      - yupper32 4y ago
        People are mostly talking about this as a moral failure, not as some kind of legal issue.
      - aerostable_slug 4y ago
        If they commit a crime, a judge and/or jury, informed by the testimony of medical experts, determines whether someone was cognizant of right and wrong. This is not uncommon in the criminal justice system. Now, responsibility on the larger scale is indeed murky. We societally at once say addicts are and aren't responsible for their behavior (depending upon one's point of view and what acts took place): a drunk driver is treated differently than a homeless addict living under a bridge. Is Kanye 'addicted' to manic states? Should we look down upon him because he won't take his meds? I'm not sure.
- mikkergp 4y ago
  Not that it makes it better, but Elon also said he suffered from bipolar disorder.
  - jonny_eh 4y ago
    He's also claimed that he has Asperger's, without any evidence.
    - mikkergp 4y ago
      Not having access to their psych records, I think all we have to go on is what they claim.
    - LegitShady 4y ago
      nobody owes the public their medical records for 'evidence'.
anoonmoose 4y ago
Kayne isn't being scammed by Parler. He's being scammed by Candace Owens, whose husband owns Parler.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? Twitter clearly took full advantage of his irrational hard on to get a signed deal. Not “being scammed” in that Twitter very nuch did not seek out the deal, but they certainly fully leveraged his willingness to toss out preconditions any sane purchaser would demand. > Having a celebrity owner increases the value. As a mascot, maybe, unless they are polarizing and their area of negative appeal overlaps with the product’s market and their positve appeal doesn’t; but owners are also decision makers, and celebrity’s are going to be all over the map in that role.
- tptacek 4y ago
  Twitter didn't want to sell to him in the first place. Musk's buyout offer took place in the context of a months-long drama about Musk being on the board. It's hard to look at the Musk/Twitter situation and say that it was driven forward by anyone other than Musk. (I have no particular reason to believe Musk is in anything less than full control of his faculties.)
nemothekid 4y ago
>Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? This is no where near the same situation. When Elon originally put is offer to buy Twitter, Twitter didn't even want to sell. Then the market crashed and all the sudden Elon's own offer was almost double of the "fair market price" for Twitter. Elon would be insane if he made the same offer today.
kgwxd 4y ago
Twitter wasn't a platform created specifically to grift idiots, and it has actual reach.

Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? Same situation. Can't a rich dude buy a company without goofy rumors being spread (scammed into buying Parler)? Having a celebrity owner increases the value.

detaro 4y ago

I don't think Kanye West saying that he suffers from bipolar disorder is a rumor.

P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul 4y ago
People with bipolar disorder aren't capable of making rational decisions? And Elon is just a completely normal guy?
- aerostable_slug 4y ago
  > People with bipolar disorder aren't capable of making rational decisions? In the midst of an uncontrolled manic episode? Often they are not.
  - ponow 4y ago
    So who should be held responsible for their decision then? Who gets to decide?
    - yupper32 4y ago
      People are mostly talking about this as a moral failure, not as some kind of legal issue.
    - aerostable_slug 4y ago
      If they commit a crime, a judge and/or jury, informed by the testimony of medical experts, determines whether someone was cognizant of right and wrong. This is not uncommon in the criminal justice system. Now, responsibility on the larger scale is indeed murky. We societally at once say addicts are and aren't responsible for their behavior (depending upon one's point of view and what acts took place): a drunk driver is treated differently than a homeless addict living under a bridge. Is Kanye 'addicted' to manic states? Should we look down upon him because he won't take his meds? I'm not sure.
mikkergp 4y ago
Not that it makes it better, but Elon also said he suffered from bipolar disorder.
- jonny_eh 4y ago
  He's also claimed that he has Asperger's, without any evidence.
  - mikkergp 4y ago
    Not having access to their psych records, I think all we have to go on is what they claim.
  - LegitShady 4y ago
    nobody owes the public their medical records for 'evidence'.

anoonmoose 4y ago

Kayne isn't being scammed by Parler. He's being scammed by Candace Owens, whose husband owns Parler.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? Twitter clearly took full advantage of his irrational hard on to get a signed deal. Not “being scammed” in that Twitter very nuch did not seek out the deal, but they certainly fully leveraged his willingness to toss out preconditions any sane purchaser would demand. > Having a celebrity owner increases the value. As a mascot, maybe, unless they are polarizing and their area of negative appeal overlaps with the product’s market and their positve appeal doesn’t; but owners are also decision makers, and celebrity’s are going to be all over the map in that role.

tptacek 4y ago
Twitter didn't want to sell to him in the first place. Musk's buyout offer took place in the context of a months-long drama about Musk being on the board. It's hard to look at the Musk/Twitter situation and say that it was driven forward by anyone other than Musk. (I have no particular reason to believe Musk is in anything less than full control of his faculties.)

nemothekid 4y ago

>Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? This is no where near the same situation. When Elon originally put is offer to buy Twitter, Twitter didn't even want to sell. Then the market crashed and all the sudden Elon's own offer was almost double of the "fair market price" for Twitter. Elon would be insane if he made the same offer today.

kgwxd 4y ago

Twitter wasn't a platform created specifically to grift idiots, and it has actual reach.