I think better phrasing for this would be "develop 12-factor apps". At scale, Kubernetes is great. When things are still small and simple, an Ansible Playbook

I think better phrasing for this would be "develop 12-factor apps". At scale, Kubernetes is great. When things are still small and simple, an Ansible Playbook and a Docker container can take a company pretty far while still being able to move to k8s pretty easily.