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> The employer would like employees to have the minimum information This kind of old, hierarchical thinking from the 1950s needs to go away.

toss1 4y ago
>>This kind of old, hierarchical thinking from the 1950s needs to go away. Yes, it does, but no, it won't. Just as democracies must always be better armed and prepared than expansionist autocracies, or the autocracies will take over, people need to be better armed and prepared than those who want to exploit them, or they will get exploited. Unfortunately, the exploiters often arrive better armed and prepared, and it is an uphill battle. Often, the only winning move is to not play the game.
- munk-a 4y ago
  Well the winning move in these cases is usually unionization - when a large number of employees are being exploited by an employer a union that allows collective bargaining can force the employer to act in a more sane manner.
  - shagie 4y ago
    Flight attendants have a union. https://www.afacwa.org https://www.afacwa.org They've recently backed strikes and raised wages https://unitedafa.org/news/2022/1/21/solidarity-works-flight-attendants-who-back-strike-move-closer-to-pay-raises/ https://unitedafa.org/news/2022/1/21/solidarity-works-flight... The rest is part of the contract - https://www.afacwa.org/flight_attendants_achieve_10_hours_rest_faa_final_rule https://www.afacwa.org/flight_attendants_achieve_10_hours_re... > Washington, D.C. (October 4, 2022) — The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today finalized a rule requiring 10 hours minimum, non-reducible rest for Flight Attendants between duty days – finally implementing a 2018 law that will make aviation safer for over 100,000 Flight Attendants and the passengers in our care. The rule will increase the rest period to 10 irreducible hours when scheduled for a duty period of 14 hours or less. Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, issued the following statement ... What would one have in a contract to help this issue?
  - toss1 4y ago
    A union is indeed a good form of being forearmed, and more should take advantage of it. That said, it does not prevent all exploitation. IIRC, the FA's in this story have a union and a contract, yet this form of exploitative behavior is not prevented.

toss1 4y ago

>>This kind of old, hierarchical thinking from the 1950s needs to go away. Yes, it does, but no, it won't. Just as democracies must always be better armed and prepared than expansionist autocracies, or the autocracies will take over, people need to be better armed and prepared than those who want to exploit them, or they will get exploited. Unfortunately, the exploiters often arrive better armed and prepared, and it is an uphill battle. Often, the only winning move is to not play the game.

munk-a 4y ago
Well the winning move in these cases is usually unionization - when a large number of employees are being exploited by an employer a union that allows collective bargaining can force the employer to act in a more sane manner.
- shagie 4y ago
  Flight attendants have a union. https://www.afacwa.org https://www.afacwa.org They've recently backed strikes and raised wages https://unitedafa.org/news/2022/1/21/solidarity-works-flight-attendants-who-back-strike-move-closer-to-pay-raises/ https://unitedafa.org/news/2022/1/21/solidarity-works-flight... The rest is part of the contract - https://www.afacwa.org/flight_attendants_achieve_10_hours_rest_faa_final_rule https://www.afacwa.org/flight_attendants_achieve_10_hours_re... > Washington, D.C. (October 4, 2022) — The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today finalized a rule requiring 10 hours minimum, non-reducible rest for Flight Attendants between duty days – finally implementing a 2018 law that will make aviation safer for over 100,000 Flight Attendants and the passengers in our care. The rule will increase the rest period to 10 irreducible hours when scheduled for a duty period of 14 hours or less. Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, issued the following statement ... What would one have in a contract to help this issue?
- toss1 4y ago
  A union is indeed a good form of being forearmed, and more should take advantage of it. That said, it does not prevent all exploitation. IIRC, the FA's in this story have a union and a contract, yet this form of exploitative behavior is not prevented.