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and these Parler people are scamming him - that's an interesting point I hadn't thought of. My first thought on hearing this news was so what? I don't care abou

and these Parler people are scamming him - that's an interesting point I hadn't thought of. My first thought on hearing this news was so what? I don't care about Parler or Kanye West, but if Parler is taking advantage of Kanye's mental decline then that's next-level awful. Like I said, I'm no fan of Kanye, but that's horrible to take advantage of people like that.

jrm4 4y ago
I really wish people understood this more. Anecdotally, I'll never forget the time I was around him and some of his people. This when he was just coming up as a rapper but well known to be a producer. Just a little club appearance, and there was some odd technical issue. I've never seen a human being who more obviously "sought the approval of others." He has this weird negative charisma; like there are some people who light up the room by being in it. It's not that he darkens the room -- but it's that he needs the light from others. It just felt like he needed everyone to really like him, and I could so easily see how someone could take advantage of that.
- jonny_eh 4y ago
  No wonder he's tried running for president. Seems to be a trend amongst narcissists.
  - paledot 4y ago
    Glib, but I've heard it said that narcissism is a prerequisite for the job. What rational human actually believes that they are qualified to be the most powerful person on Earth? That said, most presidents have had qualifications other than narcissism.
P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul 4y ago
Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? Same situation. Can't a rich dude buy a company without goofy rumors being spread (scammed into buying Parler)? Having a celebrity owner increases the value.
- detaro 4y ago
  I don't think Kanye West saying that he suffers from bipolar disorder is a rumor.
  - P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul 4y ago
    People with bipolar disorder aren't capable of making rational decisions? And Elon is just a completely normal guy?
    - aerostable_slug 4y ago
      > People with bipolar disorder aren't capable of making rational decisions? In the midst of an uncontrolled manic episode? Often they are not.
      - ponow 4y ago
        So who should be held responsible for their decision then? Who gets to decide?
        yupper32 4y ago
        People are mostly talking about this as a moral failure, not as some kind of legal issue.
        aerostable_slug 4y ago
        If they commit a crime, a judge and/or jury, informed by the testimony of medical experts, determines whether someone was cognizant of right and wrong. This is not uncommon in the criminal justice system. Now, responsibility on the larger scale is indeed murky. We societally at once say addicts are and aren't responsible for their behavior (depending upon one's point of view and what acts took place): a drunk driver is treated differently than a homeless addict living under a bridge. Is Kanye 'addicted' to manic states? Should we look down upon him because he won't take his meds? I'm not sure.
  - 4y ago
runlevel1 4y ago
I think everywhere requires "capacity" to enter a contract, and Delaware does have this on the books: > 6 DE Code § 2705 (2019): Any person who has attained 18 years of age shall have full capacity to contract; provided such person has not been declared legally incompetent to contract for reasons other than age. Any person who has attained the age of 18 years shall become fully responsible for that person’s own contracts. So I'd presume it would come down to what Delaware's Court of Chancery expects for someone to be "declared legally incompetent to contract." I'd imagine that's not something done lightly. (IANAL)
- paulmd 4y ago
  That's like, if you're committed to an institution, or have a conservator placed over you.
werber 4y ago
I understand this sentiment, and my only concern is Kanye's acquisition legitimizing anti-semitism and pushing vulnerable fans into radicalization via that platform.

jrm4 4y ago

I really wish people understood this more. Anecdotally, I'll never forget the time I was around him and some of his people. This when he was just coming up as a rapper but well known to be a producer. Just a little club appearance, and there was some odd technical issue. I've never seen a human being who more obviously "sought the approval of others." He has this weird negative charisma; like there are some people who light up the room by being in it. It's not that he darkens the room -- but it's that he needs the light from others. It just felt like he needed everyone to really like him, and I could so easily see how someone could take advantage of that.

jonny_eh 4y ago
No wonder he's tried running for president. Seems to be a trend amongst narcissists.
- paledot 4y ago
  Glib, but I've heard it said that narcissism is a prerequisite for the job. What rational human actually believes that they are qualified to be the most powerful person on Earth? That said, most presidents have had qualifications other than narcissism.

P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul 4y ago

Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? Same situation. Can't a rich dude buy a company without goofy rumors being spread (scammed into buying Parler)? Having a celebrity owner increases the value.

detaro 4y ago
I don't think Kanye West saying that he suffers from bipolar disorder is a rumor.
- P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul 4y ago
  People with bipolar disorder aren't capable of making rational decisions? And Elon is just a completely normal guy?
  - aerostable_slug 4y ago
    > People with bipolar disorder aren't capable of making rational decisions? In the midst of an uncontrolled manic episode? Often they are not.
    - ponow 4y ago
      So who should be held responsible for their decision then? Who gets to decide?
      - yupper32 4y ago
        People are mostly talking about this as a moral failure, not as some kind of legal issue.
      - aerostable_slug 4y ago
        If they commit a crime, a judge and/or jury, informed by the testimony of medical experts, determines whether someone was cognizant of right and wrong. This is not uncommon in the criminal justice system. Now, responsibility on the larger scale is indeed murky. We societally at once say addicts are and aren't responsible for their behavior (depending upon one's point of view and what acts took place): a drunk driver is treated differently than a homeless addict living under a bridge. Is Kanye 'addicted' to manic states? Should we look down upon him because he won't take his meds? I'm not sure.
- 4y ago

runlevel1 4y ago

I think everywhere requires "capacity" to enter a contract, and Delaware does have this on the books: > 6 DE Code § 2705 (2019): Any person who has attained 18 years of age shall have full capacity to contract; provided such person has not been declared legally incompetent to contract for reasons other than age. Any person who has attained the age of 18 years shall become fully responsible for that person’s own contracts. So I'd presume it would come down to what Delaware's Court of Chancery expects for someone to be "declared legally incompetent to contract." I'd imagine that's not something done lightly. (IANAL)

paulmd 4y ago
That's like, if you're committed to an institution, or have a conservator placed over you.

werber 4y ago

I understand this sentiment, and my only concern is Kanye's acquisition legitimizing anti-semitism and pushing vulnerable fans into radicalization via that platform.