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Not related to OpenBSD itself, more for "minimalistic" approach - screenshots with irssi were popular like 25 or 20 years ago. I see kinda nothing new here, ju

Not related to OpenBSD itself, more for "minimalistic" approach - screenshots with irssi were popular like 25 or 20 years ago. I see kinda nothing new here, just fly stuck in amber. Has minimalistic meant to be "limited"? Then makes sense. TUI based? Somewhat makes a bit of sense. Minimalistic but yet full featured? I couldn't see that on provided sample.

anxiously 4y ago
I have a similar setup as I mentioned in another comment. I wouldn't say it is limited or not fully featured. It does everything one needs. There's nothing missing, rather it lacks the bloat. It begins with a basic system and you build up the things you need and want on top of it (versus starting with a bloated system and trying to remove things you don't need or want). Why do I prefer the minimal setup? In my mind, stability. I have used the same setup and mostly the same configuration for ~16 years. At times my machine has had an uptime of 700+ days before a reboot. I like things that "just work" and continue to work, forever (preferably). More moving parts means more potential breakage. Keep it stupid simple and to the point.
- CoolCold 4y ago
  One's needs are much different from other one's needs. Not blaming your setup is bad for your needs, but I'm pessimistic on ideals of 700 days uptime and not changing things for 16 years. Sign of stagnation for me. My needs includes being able to cast my screen to TV or play music via AirPlay or chat in Slack/Mattermost or run some ML/Cuda stuff or tell (by voice) my laptop (Cortana actually) to set alarm for 5 minutes or... I'm not sure I could do all that with setup of the sort you have.
  - anthk 4y ago
    >cast Just use HDMI. > Music VLC has Chromecast support, and maybe Airplay. > Slack Bitlbee has plugins for everything. Just plug your fav IRC client.
znpy 4y ago
It’s very easy to be minimalistic when you’re doing very little.
- nix23 4y ago
  Like Linus the creator of Linux? Is he really doing "very little"?
  - sph 4y ago
    Admittedly he does very little with his computer. He often said these days it's mostly reading and writing emails and merging patches. And he often stated he does not know nor care much about how his desktop works. He uses stock Fedora and spends his time inside his Micro Emacs clone, and laments he's not even doing much coding these days. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a harder time than an average sweng to set up a LAMP server or troubleshoot networking issues. Being central to the kernel development doesn't automatically mean you're a computer wiz.
    - tinus_hn 4y ago
      Writing version 0.1 of a kernel from scratch very much does mean you are a computer wiz, how else are you going to make it run? You need to program the base hardware of the computer manually! Of course if to you a computer wiz is someone who knows how to write a web page, or how Windows works, or how you use Photoshop, then no that’s not what you need. Then again the people who know that probably aren’t enough of a computer wiz to write a kernel from scratch.
      - danielnechtan 4y ago
        sph 4y ago
Fnoord 4y ago
And I thought my Sway config is complex. Look at this stuff, it even runs X. Does Wayland work on OpenBSD? The howto also uses an FTP client, and doesn't explain how it got the checksum.
- the_qbit 4y ago
  "file transfer program" https://man.openbsd.org/ftp https://man.openbsd.org/ftp Wayland applications can be used with the Arcan display server, but there is no native support for OpenBSD in Wayland.
danielnechtan 4y ago
The screenshot was mostly to break up the article - it's not a picture book, the meat is in the words. As a minimalist setup there's not really anything of note you could screenshot; Just a bunch of windows without decorations and some non-bloated software.

anxiously 4y ago

I have a similar setup as I mentioned in another comment. I wouldn't say it is limited or not fully featured. It does everything one needs. There's nothing missing, rather it lacks the bloat. It begins with a basic system and you build up the things you need and want on top of it (versus starting with a bloated system and trying to remove things you don't need or want). Why do I prefer the minimal setup? In my mind, stability. I have used the same setup and mostly the same configuration for ~16 years. At times my machine has had an uptime of 700+ days before a reboot. I like things that "just work" and continue to work, forever (preferably). More moving parts means more potential breakage. Keep it stupid simple and to the point.

CoolCold 4y ago
One's needs are much different from other one's needs. Not blaming your setup is bad for your needs, but I'm pessimistic on ideals of 700 days uptime and not changing things for 16 years. Sign of stagnation for me. My needs includes being able to cast my screen to TV or play music via AirPlay or chat in Slack/Mattermost or run some ML/Cuda stuff or tell (by voice) my laptop (Cortana actually) to set alarm for 5 minutes or... I'm not sure I could do all that with setup of the sort you have.
- anthk 4y ago
  >cast Just use HDMI. > Music VLC has Chromecast support, and maybe Airplay. > Slack Bitlbee has plugins for everything. Just plug your fav IRC client.

znpy 4y ago

It’s very easy to be minimalistic when you’re doing very little.

nix23 4y ago
Like Linus the creator of Linux? Is he really doing "very little"?
- sph 4y ago
  Admittedly he does very little with his computer. He often said these days it's mostly reading and writing emails and merging patches. And he often stated he does not know nor care much about how his desktop works. He uses stock Fedora and spends his time inside his Micro Emacs clone, and laments he's not even doing much coding these days. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a harder time than an average sweng to set up a LAMP server or troubleshoot networking issues. Being central to the kernel development doesn't automatically mean you're a computer wiz.
  - tinus_hn 4y ago
    Writing version 0.1 of a kernel from scratch very much does mean you are a computer wiz, how else are you going to make it run? You need to program the base hardware of the computer manually! Of course if to you a computer wiz is someone who knows how to write a web page, or how Windows works, or how you use Photoshop, then no that’s not what you need. Then again the people who know that probably aren’t enough of a computer wiz to write a kernel from scratch.
    - danielnechtan 4y ago
      - sph 4y ago

Fnoord 4y ago

And I thought my Sway config is complex. Look at this stuff, it even runs X. Does Wayland work on OpenBSD? The howto also uses an FTP client, and doesn't explain how it got the checksum.

the_qbit 4y ago
"file transfer program" https://man.openbsd.org/ftp https://man.openbsd.org/ftp Wayland applications can be used with the Arcan display server, but there is no native support for OpenBSD in Wayland.

danielnechtan 4y ago

The screenshot was mostly to break up the article - it's not a picture book, the meat is in the words. As a minimalist setup there's not really anything of note you could screenshot; Just a bunch of windows without decorations and some non-bloated software.