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I generally agree with your point, but the difference is that the dangers of most new technology can be reasonably contained. Deep fakes will undermine people's

by sxg 4y ago

I generally agree with your point, but the difference is that the dangers of most new technology can be reasonably contained. Deep fakes will undermine people's trust in anything they see or hear, which is a severe negative. It's unclear how to minimize this kind of harm.

phpisthebest 4y ago
You see that as a negative, to me I think people need to be less trust full of things they see on the internet... I grew up with the prevailing idea of "never trust what you see online", yet today many have deep and misplaced trust in online media, influencers, and personalities. I think a little more distrust is needed
nonrandomstring 4y ago
> Deep fakes will undermine people's trust in anything they see or hear Not quite. Deep fakes will undermine people's trust in anything digital they see or hear. It bodes ill for technology not for people per-se. In other words, those who should be most terrified by the implications of deep-fake technologies and AI are those most heavily invested in digital technology. I sense that in some ironic way, suddenly the "boot is on the other foot".
dotnet00 4y ago
The fact that people think that they should have any inherent trust of anything you see or hear (especially online) in the first place is a severe negative. Misinformation has always existed and always will exist, the solution is education and not knee-capping development. This same attitude would've made the internet a far less open place than it has been if it had been applied to it at its start.
- fleddr 4y ago
  "The fact that people think that they should have any inherent trust of anything you see or hear (especially online) in the first place is a severe negative". This is inherent of our species. The idea that you should distrust anything you see or hear is an alien concept and simply not pragmatic. "Misinformation has always existed and always will exist" False equivalence. The online situation is brand new. Any citizen able to spread massive amounts of fake news to lots of people on the cheap is a brand new capability. "the solution is education" No, it isn't. Every study shows that highly educated people are also gullible enough to be manipulated with fake news. Which makes total sense, as absolutely nobody has the time to fact-check and do a deep background check on the 5 zillion pieces of information they see on a given day.
  - dotnet00 4y ago
    By "the solution is education" I don't mean education in general but education on how to identify poor sources of information and enough reasoning ability to not fall for obvious misinformation. As it stands we barely equip students to recognize good sources for stuff they have to cite, let alone recognizing good sources for general information.

by sxg 4y ago

phpisthebest 4y ago

You see that as a negative, to me I think people need to be less trust full of things they see on the internet... I grew up with the prevailing idea of "never trust what you see online", yet today many have deep and misplaced trust in online media, influencers, and personalities. I think a little more distrust is needed

nonrandomstring 4y ago

> Deep fakes will undermine people's trust in anything they see or hear Not quite. Deep fakes will undermine people's trust in anything digital they see or hear. It bodes ill for technology not for people per-se. In other words, those who should be most terrified by the implications of deep-fake technologies and AI are those most heavily invested in digital technology. I sense that in some ironic way, suddenly the "boot is on the other foot".

dotnet00 4y ago

The fact that people think that they should have any inherent trust of anything you see or hear (especially online) in the first place is a severe negative. Misinformation has always existed and always will exist, the solution is education and not knee-capping development. This same attitude would've made the internet a far less open place than it has been if it had been applied to it at its start.

fleddr 4y ago
"The fact that people think that they should have any inherent trust of anything you see or hear (especially online) in the first place is a severe negative". This is inherent of our species. The idea that you should distrust anything you see or hear is an alien concept and simply not pragmatic. "Misinformation has always existed and always will exist" False equivalence. The online situation is brand new. Any citizen able to spread massive amounts of fake news to lots of people on the cheap is a brand new capability. "the solution is education" No, it isn't. Every study shows that highly educated people are also gullible enough to be manipulated with fake news. Which makes total sense, as absolutely nobody has the time to fact-check and do a deep background check on the 5 zillion pieces of information they see on a given day.
- dotnet00 4y ago
  By "the solution is education" I don't mean education in general but education on how to identify poor sources of information and enough reasoning ability to not fall for obvious misinformation. As it stands we barely equip students to recognize good sources for stuff they have to cite, let alone recognizing good sources for general information.