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This is very nearly off topic, but "Ain't" is the correct conjugation to pair with "Gonna". This form comes from Britain and is preserved in some dialects of A
by samatman 4y ago
This is very nearly off topic, but "Ain't" is the correct conjugation to pair with "Gonna". This form comes from Britain and is preserved in some dialects of American English, but "Aren't Gonna" is a partial hypercorrection; if we want acrolect, we must go all the way to "Aren't Going To".
"You gonna be at the thing this weekend?"
"Nah man I aren't gonna" <-- this is wrong
For the Commonweath, to whom this is no longer part of the language, "You Aren't Going to Need It" is fine, no need to include the T.
Edit: I was drawing further attention to the actual grammatical distinction between "ain't" and "aren't" by showing that "ain't" conjugates the first person and "aren't" doesn't.
It might help to know that "going to" is usually pronounced "gonna" unless it ends a clause, while "gonna" is more normally realized in speech as "goan".
Even more: if you want to reify a partial hypercorrection, go ahead, I'm a descriptive linguist, say the 't' in often while you're at it.
One of my grandfathers would have said something sounding like "yain go need it", the other "you aren't goin a need it".
The latter I'm sure never said the word "ain't" in his life. Nor would he have ever spelled "going to" as "gonna", no matter what it sounds like when spoken.
- BerislavLopac 4y ago> This form comes from Britain All forms of English, ultimately, come from Britain.
- grey_earthling 4y ago“You aren't gonna need it” is ordinary colloquial British English. “I aren't…” is not.
- RickHull 4y agoYou're not gonna need it I'm not gonna need it You aren't gonna need it I amn't gonna need it You ain't gonna need it I ain't gonna need it
- pindab0ter 4y agoYou'ren't gonna need it.
- yellowapple 4y agoShe's not gonna need it They're not gonna need it She isn't gonna need it They aren't gonna need it She ain't gonna need it They ain't gonna need it "Ain't" is wonderfully versatile.
- dri_ft 4y agoyagni, yagnas, yagnat...
- dri_ft 4y ago> "Nah man I aren't gonna" <-- this is wrong Well, yes, because the first person singular of to be is am, not are. It works fine with I am or you are. > I'm not gonna do that <--- looks good to me > You aren't gonna need that <--- also looks good to me 'You aren't gonna need it' looks weird because it deviates from the stock phrase YAGNI, but it's not wrong.
- marcus_holmes 4y ago> if we want acrolect, we must go all the way to "Aren't Going To". but "gonna" is a contraction of "going to" "I'm gonna go to the thing" is short for "I'm going to go to the thing". > "Nah man I aren't gonna" <-- this is wrong but "Nah man, I'm not gonna go" is fine - the problem is not with "gonna" here, it's with "I aren't" (which as others have said, is incorrect, and should be "I am not" rather than "I are not"). I don't see a problem with "You Aren't Gonna Need It" or even "You Ain't Gonna Need It"
- nine_k 4y agoShouldn't the "ain't" form require double negation, as in "you ain't gonna need no exceptions"? Then YAGNI would need to be transformed to something like YAGNNOI, "you ain't gonna need none of it". (An offtopic technicality comment being at the top on HN always amuses me.)
- fknorangesite 4y ago> Shouldn't the "ain't" form require double negation, as in "you ain't gonna need no exceptions"? Only in some dialects.
- yellowapple 4y agoAnd in some of those dialects, "no" expands to "none of them there doggone"
- js2 4y agoI used to argue for “amn’t” as in “I amn’t going to need it” but none of my elementary school teachers were persuadable.
- handelaar 4y agoFully in-use in Scotland and Ireland
- tmorton 4y agoWe're not gonna need it! No, we ain't gonna need it! We're not gonna need it anymore!
- zasdffaa 4y agoYou goan dun bikesheddin'
- nerdponx 4y agoThis is flat-out wrong pseudogrammatical criticism. I say "aren't gonna" all the time. "Gonna" is a very common spoken contraction, used much more broadly than "ain't" in AmE.
- fknorangesite 4y agoThis is a really weirdly specific set of prescriptivism that is easily countered by plenty of native English speakers who absolutely do use "aren't" and "gonna" together (myself, for example).