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I’ve found that there are oddballs in just about every culture who make new things. Some cultures celebrate them, others don’t. The most tolerant cultures tend

I’ve found that there are oddballs in just about every culture who make new things. Some cultures celebrate them, others don’t. The most tolerant cultures tend to get the most interesting new art. Edit: corollary, some of the best new art happens in the most restrictive environments. Maybe it’s a case of living at the extremes?

mdp2021 4y ago
I think that some environments raised kids to be grittier, more focused on getting results (and less e.g. prone to consume time in entertainment). > some of the best new art happens in the most restrictive environments You reminded me of Paul Buchanan, frontman of The Blue Nile, revealing that they would compose and rehearse standing shoulders to a wall in a narrow corridor in a house in Glasgow - that was the room they had.
- josh2600 4y ago
  So real. I grew up real poor and it made me hungry. I think that's where a lot of the hacker mentality comes from, one form of poverty or another. I am hoping to raise children soon and I am wondering how to help them to feel a hunger for the world without suffering in the same way I was raised. It's hard for me to imagine how they'll learn to thirst for the experience of the world if they don't have the same socioeconomic pressures, but I think that will be one of my most profound growing experiences in this life. I intend to accept them for who they are and to try to give them as much opportunity as they can stomach.
Someone 4y ago
I guess it may help achieving Goethes “In der Beschränkung zeigt such erst der Meister” (“the master shows himself through restriction” / Antoine de Saint Exupery’s “la perfection soit atteinte non quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter, mais quand il n'y a plus rien à retrancher” (“perfection is not achieved when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away”) If you have little to work with, adding stuff often forces you to remove or shrink something else.

mdp2021 4y ago

I think that some environments raised kids to be grittier, more focused on getting results (and less e.g. prone to consume time in entertainment). > some of the best new art happens in the most restrictive environments You reminded me of Paul Buchanan, frontman of The Blue Nile, revealing that they would compose and rehearse standing shoulders to a wall in a narrow corridor in a house in Glasgow - that was the room they had.

josh2600 4y ago
So real. I grew up real poor and it made me hungry. I think that's where a lot of the hacker mentality comes from, one form of poverty or another. I am hoping to raise children soon and I am wondering how to help them to feel a hunger for the world without suffering in the same way I was raised. It's hard for me to imagine how they'll learn to thirst for the experience of the world if they don't have the same socioeconomic pressures, but I think that will be one of my most profound growing experiences in this life. I intend to accept them for who they are and to try to give them as much opportunity as they can stomach.

Someone 4y ago

I guess it may help achieving Goethes “In der Beschränkung zeigt such erst der Meister” (“the master shows himself through restriction” / Antoine de Saint Exupery’s “la perfection soit atteinte non quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter, mais quand il n'y a plus rien à retrancher” (“perfection is not achieved when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away”) If you have little to work with, adding stuff often forces you to remove or shrink something else.