> Real influence is when a party is part of the government, has ministers, etc. Like the greens in Germany. Yes that's what happened. Real influence is when yo

> Real influence is when a party is part of the government, has ministers, etc. Like the greens in Germany. Yes that's what happened. Real influence is when you sign agreements for your votes at the presidential election in exchange for a few ministers, exactly what the greens did during the past 20 years. > If the 'greens' had any influence in France, this influence is not very visible in the results. I can point at actual laws propped up by the greens against their votes if you want, at this point it's just denying reality. > The investments in nuclear went much worse: half of the reactor fleet is offline and more than a hundred billion Euros is needed for this fleet just to keep it running and replace some of these aging reactors. No wonder EDF is nationalized, with huge debt and billions of more needed - a normal company would already be bankrupt. Well that's what happens when you stop investments and force selling electricity to below production costs yeah, again you're lucky it's nuclear we're talking about, it would be renewables, the production would have dropped to zero at that point. > Renewables are currently the cheapest source of electricity and its getting cheaper. France spent around half the price of the nuclear grid on renewables ... for 7% of the production. This puts it at around 5 times more expensive than the existing nuclear grid without taking into account the backup infrastructure. The french investment on renewable was one of the most expensive with the lowest output ever performed by the country This also did not help the current situation either.