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Just witnessed a missile strike on Kyiv city

102 points by Max-Ganz-II 4y ago

There’s just been two more explosions. The first was unheralded, but for the second, first there was gunfire - I grabbed the camera and went to the window, opened it, and I could hear a loud droning noise, an engine - and then I saw a bright white missile in the sky, completely uncamouflaged, flying at a moderate altitude, perhaps 500m? it flew slowly, right-to-left in my field of view, and then began to dive towards its target, the sound of the engine becoming increasingly louder and stronger, and then it plunged below the line of buildings (I’m on the 15th floor) and I could see it no more, then the inevitable crack-bang - different to the explosions from a few days, not so large, but where I had the window open I felt the blast wave come to my face and body, and then of course with sick certainty the unfurling column of dark grey smoke shooting up from the impact site. I’m hoping not too much additional damage is being done to the electricity infrastructure, although on the face of it, that explosion was simply in central Kyiv, not a very long way from the Samsung building which was hit last time. I’m amazed at how slow the missile was. It was not rocket powered, but had an engine. I understand now how they can be shot down. There is time to aim and fire a missile. I can hear more gunfire now, and another explosion just happened. I was able to grab two or three photos, but it’s a wide-angle lens, so the missile is very small. Not publishing, don’t want to give information to the Russians. Emergency services’ sirens now.

fullark 4y ago
nocubicles 4y ago
Are you Ukrainian yourself? If not then are foreigners able to travel to Ukraine/Kyiv currently via land do you know?
- Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
  Yes, entry into UA is as normal. You can't fly, no air traffic now. Best way by far is the overnight train from Warsaw to Kyiv.
  - nocubicles 4y ago
    Are all services like card payments, 4G internet etc working for foreigners? Thinking of taking a trip to Kyiv some time in the future. Last time I visited in 2020 and loved the city.
    - Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
      Life here, as far as all the usual is concerned, is normal. Internet runs just fine, I go swimming every other day to keep fit, supermarkets full of food. Metro runs, I think a few stations are still closed, though, although that could have been so before the war; I wouldn't know. Curfew at 11pm is the main difference. There's a bit of a question now about electricity, because Putin is trying to destroy the electricity supply, but you just gotta roll with these things.
    - prvit 4y ago
      Everything is mostly normal, you can still find 5000 euro bottles of Petrus in the (no longer 24 hour) supermarket. Even the curfew feels more or less normal, it’s not too long ago they had the same for COVID.
  - drakonka 4y ago
    I hope you and your loved ones remain as safe as possible. Just days before the recent renewed volley of missile strikes all over the country, I asked my uncle if it would be alright to take a similar route to come see them (from Poland to Lviv). My grandfather was recently evacuated from Mykolaiv after refusing to leave for a long time; I worry that I may not get to see him again if I don't go now, and also intended to stay a while and help at or near the Polish border as needed. My uncle said that it's a bad idea, and that there could still be missile strikes on Lviv. I didn't push it much, knowing they have enough to worry about without adding me to the mix. Just days after, Lviv was struck, proving him right.
    - Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
      Cities are huge. The chances of you being hit is nil. If you do come, you'll help the economy - your rent, your living costs - and the locals appreciate you being here.
Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
I believe now this was actually a drone, not a cruise missile. I thought drone originally, but then I thought no drone would have the range to get to Kyiv. However, this is a drone in the sense of "small aircraft", so, yes, the range is there.
- tim333 4y ago
  Probably this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136 Shahed 136 drone. Speed 115 mph. Range up to 2500km. Here's video of one being shot down with small arms https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1581959594112262144 https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/15819595941122621...
  - Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
    Very interesting video. Those officers did a fine job and they looked like they knew what they were doing and they were calm in a combat situation. I couldn't see the drone at all in the video, only the explosion when it landed. I can't imagine where it landed, out in the middle of nowhere, was the intended target, so I concur; they really did shoot it down. I feel profoundly impressed by the accuracy of their shooting - but although I know a lot about the history of war, and so the nature and characteristics of weapons, I have no actual experience of weapons, so I'm not a strong or qualified judge of such things.
- prvit 4y ago
  Arguably all cruise missiles are drones.
  - muzani 4y ago
    Sibling post made an interesting point. It could be a "loitering munition", somewhere between cruise missiles and drones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loitering_munition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loitering_munition It's fascinating how things like this are no longer science fiction.
mcv 4y ago
My newspaper says that the attacks were by Iranian kamikaze drones, so that would explain why they're slower and possibly less powerful. These recent attacks are sickening. I don't see what Putin is trying to accomplish with them, except for making people hate him even more. I think he's trying to provoke a reaction that would use to justify further escalation on his part. The problem is, his only options for further escalation would be full mobilisation or nuclear weapons, and I think both would work out very badly for him. The Russian people wouldn't accept full mobilisation (see how they're reacting to partial mobilisation!), and NATO will definitely step in once nukes are used. There seems to be no way out for Putin except giving up or this sort of random destruction. He's lashing out like a toddler who can't have something he wants. Please be safe out there.
- Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
  Well, the option he's heading towards is loosing, and I don't think he can change that, only defer it. The partial mobilization is a band-aid; it won't make the Russian army effective (let alone the air force, or the navy). I suspect these guys are just being thrown in at the deep end. They're doing to die, and not do very much in the process. The main goal is to keep something in the field, so the Ukrainians don't just walk to the border because all the short-term contract troops have gone home. Building a real army takes at least a year; the Ukrainian are working on this, via mass training programs in European countries, and here in the Ukraine. The guy who organizes my AirBnB is in an infantry training programme; when he picks up the rent, I give him a huge shopping back stuffed with chocolate for his unit. Then there's the question of equipping and supplying that army. Ukraine has the arsenals of the West behind it, and ultimately the military strength of a country is its economic strength. Putin's underestimation of the power of the West is as great as that power is proving to be. I've no idea if Russia is also working on property training new units. It seems somewhat questionable - training in Russia is performed by the stay-at-home batallion (each regiment is three batallions, two are normally deployed, one stays at home), but a lot of those stays-at-home batallions have been deployed. If you just throw people in at the deep end, if they do survive, they have experience, but little training. No good for more complex operations, such as offensives. However, the troops anyway to my eye have no motivation for offensives. Some units are just brutual thugs, killers, torturers and maimers; others are conscripts, and the army as a whole knows perfectly well they were thoroughly lied to and sent into the battle in the worst possible ways, tactically and strategically, and are paying with their lives. This is why there's so much reliance on artillery; it just sits there, behind your lines, so you can control it, and the men firing the pieces, and all they have to do is put shells in a gun and fire. I don't think Putin will use a tactical nuclear weapon, because it just won't do very much to the battle; they are surprisingly ineffective on dispersed troops. Even to use one will turn the world against him, and he would have to use a lot. Putin would have to build a new army from scratch, with so much strength it could overwhelm the Ukraine supported by the West, and that is not possible. I hate being in a situation where I have to even think about whether or a nuclear weapon will be used. Putin has a lot to answer for.
mamonster 4y ago
Saw some videos myself today, looks like a pain in the ass to deal with. Doesn't look like small arms fire can bring it down, and it flies really low, so probably not ideal for proper air defenses. The other problem seems to be that it has a unit cost of about 20k and looks to be very easy to produce. Does it do a lot of damage when it lands?
- Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
  I could be completely wrong, but they look like prime targets for shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles. Easy to see, slow and low. Gunfire, mmm, don't know. Hand-held, I think you'd have a hell of a time trying to score a hit without tracer bullets, and the bullets which miss will be coming down at speed into central Kyiv. They can perfectly well kill. If you did score a hit, well, I really don't know. Could be it's packed with sensitive internal components - maybe you would at least damage it enough that it would no longer be able to guide correctly to its target. Or maybe it's mainly fuel tank and wing and punching holes in both just before impact makes little difference. I'd say radar-guided AA gunfire would take such drones out easily, at least when I saw it; but it surely flew to Kyvi at very low altitude, and gained height only at the end. I wonder if they were piloted in real-time, or if they had on-board guidance? Damage, I'll see later, when I attend the local impact sites. The bang and smoke were quite a lot less than the missiles from a few days ago.
  - nocubicles 4y ago
    Some tutorial for bringing these drones down stated that you should load your magazine with 2-1-2-1-2-1 etc where 2 are normal bullets and 1 is tracer. Not sure how effective it is but using normals with tracers is good idea I guess.
  - Someone 4y ago
    > Gunfire, mmm, don't know. Hand-held Guns are getting smart. https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a30720528/us-army-rifle-smash-scope/ https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a30720528/...: The U.S. Army is evaluating a scope that won’t let the user fire his or her rifle unless the shot is guaranteed. The SMASH scope is the product of Smart Shooter Ltd., an Israeli company, and could go on the Army’s upcoming replacements for the M4 carbine and M249 squad automatic weapon. The scope, or one like it, will eventually go on the Army's next generation squad automatic weapons. (Company at https://www.smart-shooter.com/ https://www.smart-shooter.com/)
NicoJuicy 4y ago
NATO should realize that the Iran drone has a range of 2 k km. and should supply Ukraine with > 300 km equipment ( the limit for international missles)
- speedylight 4y ago
  Can you go into more details about the limit?
  - NicoJuicy 4y ago
    This should give you some more information: https://www.sipri.org/commentary/topical-backgrounder/2021/missile-technology-control-regime-crossroads https://www.sipri.org/commentary/topical-backgrounder/2021/m...
RileyJames 4y ago
You mentioned electrical infrastructure, is this their objective with these drone attacks? It seems odd to be attacking Kyiv since it’s so far from any frontline. But I know nothing about these things.
- trasz 4y ago
  Those attacks are pointless from military point of view. Their objective is to spread terror among civilians, since orcs can’t effectively fight against proper army.
  - aa-jv 4y ago
    Their objective is the targetting of specific individuals who are involved in the conflict, wherever they are. Russia is showing that it has the intelligence reach to target those it wants to target. It is the same sort of tactic that the US' and its allies uses in its wars on terror, with targetted drone killings.
    - Jataman606 4y ago
      > Their objective is the targetting of specific individuals who are involved in the conflict, wherever they are. If they could target specific individuals they definitely would, just like Ukrainian forces killed many high ranking officers (including generals). The fact they don't is just proof they can't.
      - aa-jv 4y ago
        How do you know they're not targetting specific individuals? You don't actually know - but they do say they are specifically going after "those responsible for the terror attacks on Russia" .. Note, I do not support Russia in this conflict - I am against all war, including ours! (West) But it is important to not mis-underestimate ones' enemy - and we don't know for sure that they aren't using the drones to target their terrorists - just like the USA has done, essentially every twenty minutes for the last twenty years.
reducesuffering 4y ago
Corroboration: https://mobile.twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1581878818260029440 https://mobile.twitter.com/yarotrof/status/15818788182600294...
iso1631 4y ago
> The first was unheralded, but for the second, first there was gunfire - I grabbed the camera and went to the window I always remember this from my first hostile environment course. Top things not to do when you hear gunfire or explosions -- run to the nearest glass pane and look to see if you can see what's going on. It's a natural reaction, but that window (and indeed wall) offers no protection from bullets, and an explosion can easily blow out a window and flying glass is not a good thing to be standing besides.
- Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
  All absolutely true, but I think Kyiv is huge, I'm tiny, and the number of incoming missiles is small; I think it just won't happen. To my thought, it's worth that risk, for the benefit of seeing what happens so I can write about it.
  - iso1631 4y ago
    "where I had the window open I felt the blast wave come to my face and body" You're not just risking your own life, if you are injured because of your voyeurism you will be taking up Ukrainian medical resources that could be better spent.
    - Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
      I personally bear more risk crossing the roads during my stay here. Would you advise to stop doing so, to reduce the potential burden on the medical services? As it is, I have private medical insurance, they're a business, I pay them, they provision their services, and provide that service. As such, to my eye, even if I was taking significant risk, which I am not, it would not be an ethical matter, and even this is without any consideration to the benefits of writing about what's going on.
egorfine 4y ago
Я тоже проснулся сегодня от. :(
- Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
  Будильник Путина.
markus_zhang 4y ago
Just curious I heard that radar guided AA guns are suitable to shoot these things down. Is it true or myth?
prvit 4y ago
> I’m amazed at how slow the missile was. It was not rocket powered, but had an engine. I understand now how they can be shot down. There is time to aim and fire a missile. These slower things are actually quite a challenge for systems designed to shoot down fast moving missiles, it’s easier to filter for unusually fast moving objects than slower ones.
Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
I walked down to the new impact sites earlier. I can't say much, no wish to pass useful information on, but I will say the top floor of a residential building is burned out. I think all the people in those top floor apartments are dead, and I think they died in their sleep or just after waking; it was about 6.30am.
whatwhatwhat_ 4y ago
Isn’t it obvious you should leave that city if there are rockets falling from the sky? And Kyiv would be target #1 for a nuclear strike. Why don’t you run?

102 points by Max-Ganz-II 4y ago

fullark 4y ago

nocubicles 4y ago

Are you Ukrainian yourself? If not then are foreigners able to travel to Ukraine/Kyiv currently via land do you know?

Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
Yes, entry into UA is as normal. You can't fly, no air traffic now. Best way by far is the overnight train from Warsaw to Kyiv.
- nocubicles 4y ago
  Are all services like card payments, 4G internet etc working for foreigners? Thinking of taking a trip to Kyiv some time in the future. Last time I visited in 2020 and loved the city.
  - Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
    Life here, as far as all the usual is concerned, is normal. Internet runs just fine, I go swimming every other day to keep fit, supermarkets full of food. Metro runs, I think a few stations are still closed, though, although that could have been so before the war; I wouldn't know. Curfew at 11pm is the main difference. There's a bit of a question now about electricity, because Putin is trying to destroy the electricity supply, but you just gotta roll with these things.
  - prvit 4y ago
    Everything is mostly normal, you can still find 5000 euro bottles of Petrus in the (no longer 24 hour) supermarket. Even the curfew feels more or less normal, it’s not too long ago they had the same for COVID.
- drakonka 4y ago
  I hope you and your loved ones remain as safe as possible. Just days before the recent renewed volley of missile strikes all over the country, I asked my uncle if it would be alright to take a similar route to come see them (from Poland to Lviv). My grandfather was recently evacuated from Mykolaiv after refusing to leave for a long time; I worry that I may not get to see him again if I don't go now, and also intended to stay a while and help at or near the Polish border as needed. My uncle said that it's a bad idea, and that there could still be missile strikes on Lviv. I didn't push it much, knowing they have enough to worry about without adding me to the mix. Just days after, Lviv was struck, proving him right.
  - Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
    Cities are huge. The chances of you being hit is nil. If you do come, you'll help the economy - your rent, your living costs - and the locals appreciate you being here.

Max-Ganz-II 4y ago

I believe now this was actually a drone, not a cruise missile. I thought drone originally, but then I thought no drone would have the range to get to Kyiv. However, this is a drone in the sense of "small aircraft", so, yes, the range is there.

tim333 4y ago
Probably this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136 Shahed 136 drone. Speed 115 mph. Range up to 2500km. Here's video of one being shot down with small arms https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1581959594112262144 https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/15819595941122621...
- Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
  Very interesting video. Those officers did a fine job and they looked like they knew what they were doing and they were calm in a combat situation. I couldn't see the drone at all in the video, only the explosion when it landed. I can't imagine where it landed, out in the middle of nowhere, was the intended target, so I concur; they really did shoot it down. I feel profoundly impressed by the accuracy of their shooting - but although I know a lot about the history of war, and so the nature and characteristics of weapons, I have no actual experience of weapons, so I'm not a strong or qualified judge of such things.
prvit 4y ago
Arguably all cruise missiles are drones.
- muzani 4y ago
  Sibling post made an interesting point. It could be a "loitering munition", somewhere between cruise missiles and drones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loitering_munition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loitering_munition It's fascinating how things like this are no longer science fiction.

mcv 4y ago

My newspaper says that the attacks were by Iranian kamikaze drones, so that would explain why they're slower and possibly less powerful. These recent attacks are sickening. I don't see what Putin is trying to accomplish with them, except for making people hate him even more. I think he's trying to provoke a reaction that would use to justify further escalation on his part. The problem is, his only options for further escalation would be full mobilisation or nuclear weapons, and I think both would work out very badly for him. The Russian people wouldn't accept full mobilisation (see how they're reacting to partial mobilisation!), and NATO will definitely step in once nukes are used. There seems to be no way out for Putin except giving up or this sort of random destruction. He's lashing out like a toddler who can't have something he wants. Please be safe out there.

Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
Well, the option he's heading towards is loosing, and I don't think he can change that, only defer it. The partial mobilization is a band-aid; it won't make the Russian army effective (let alone the air force, or the navy). I suspect these guys are just being thrown in at the deep end. They're doing to die, and not do very much in the process. The main goal is to keep something in the field, so the Ukrainians don't just walk to the border because all the short-term contract troops have gone home. Building a real army takes at least a year; the Ukrainian are working on this, via mass training programs in European countries, and here in the Ukraine. The guy who organizes my AirBnB is in an infantry training programme; when he picks up the rent, I give him a huge shopping back stuffed with chocolate for his unit. Then there's the question of equipping and supplying that army. Ukraine has the arsenals of the West behind it, and ultimately the military strength of a country is its economic strength. Putin's underestimation of the power of the West is as great as that power is proving to be. I've no idea if Russia is also working on property training new units. It seems somewhat questionable - training in Russia is performed by the stay-at-home batallion (each regiment is three batallions, two are normally deployed, one stays at home), but a lot of those stays-at-home batallions have been deployed. If you just throw people in at the deep end, if they do survive, they have experience, but little training. No good for more complex operations, such as offensives. However, the troops anyway to my eye have no motivation for offensives. Some units are just brutual thugs, killers, torturers and maimers; others are conscripts, and the army as a whole knows perfectly well they were thoroughly lied to and sent into the battle in the worst possible ways, tactically and strategically, and are paying with their lives. This is why there's so much reliance on artillery; it just sits there, behind your lines, so you can control it, and the men firing the pieces, and all they have to do is put shells in a gun and fire. I don't think Putin will use a tactical nuclear weapon, because it just won't do very much to the battle; they are surprisingly ineffective on dispersed troops. Even to use one will turn the world against him, and he would have to use a lot. Putin would have to build a new army from scratch, with so much strength it could overwhelm the Ukraine supported by the West, and that is not possible. I hate being in a situation where I have to even think about whether or a nuclear weapon will be used. Putin has a lot to answer for.

mamonster 4y ago

Saw some videos myself today, looks like a pain in the ass to deal with. Doesn't look like small arms fire can bring it down, and it flies really low, so probably not ideal for proper air defenses. The other problem seems to be that it has a unit cost of about 20k and looks to be very easy to produce. Does it do a lot of damage when it lands?

Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
I could be completely wrong, but they look like prime targets for shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles. Easy to see, slow and low. Gunfire, mmm, don't know. Hand-held, I think you'd have a hell of a time trying to score a hit without tracer bullets, and the bullets which miss will be coming down at speed into central Kyiv. They can perfectly well kill. If you did score a hit, well, I really don't know. Could be it's packed with sensitive internal components - maybe you would at least damage it enough that it would no longer be able to guide correctly to its target. Or maybe it's mainly fuel tank and wing and punching holes in both just before impact makes little difference. I'd say radar-guided AA gunfire would take such drones out easily, at least when I saw it; but it surely flew to Kyvi at very low altitude, and gained height only at the end. I wonder if they were piloted in real-time, or if they had on-board guidance? Damage, I'll see later, when I attend the local impact sites. The bang and smoke were quite a lot less than the missiles from a few days ago.
- nocubicles 4y ago
  Some tutorial for bringing these drones down stated that you should load your magazine with 2-1-2-1-2-1 etc where 2 are normal bullets and 1 is tracer. Not sure how effective it is but using normals with tracers is good idea I guess.
- Someone 4y ago
  > Gunfire, mmm, don't know. Hand-held Guns are getting smart. https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a30720528/us-army-rifle-smash-scope/ https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a30720528/...: The U.S. Army is evaluating a scope that won’t let the user fire his or her rifle unless the shot is guaranteed. The SMASH scope is the product of Smart Shooter Ltd., an Israeli company, and could go on the Army’s upcoming replacements for the M4 carbine and M249 squad automatic weapon. The scope, or one like it, will eventually go on the Army's next generation squad automatic weapons. (Company at https://www.smart-shooter.com/ https://www.smart-shooter.com/)

NicoJuicy 4y ago

NATO should realize that the Iran drone has a range of 2 k km. and should supply Ukraine with > 300 km equipment ( the limit for international missles)

speedylight 4y ago
Can you go into more details about the limit?
- NicoJuicy 4y ago
  This should give you some more information: https://www.sipri.org/commentary/topical-backgrounder/2021/missile-technology-control-regime-crossroads https://www.sipri.org/commentary/topical-backgrounder/2021/m...

RileyJames 4y ago

You mentioned electrical infrastructure, is this their objective with these drone attacks? It seems odd to be attacking Kyiv since it’s so far from any frontline. But I know nothing about these things.

trasz 4y ago
Those attacks are pointless from military point of view. Their objective is to spread terror among civilians, since orcs can’t effectively fight against proper army.
- aa-jv 4y ago
  Their objective is the targetting of specific individuals who are involved in the conflict, wherever they are. Russia is showing that it has the intelligence reach to target those it wants to target. It is the same sort of tactic that the US' and its allies uses in its wars on terror, with targetted drone killings.
  - Jataman606 4y ago
    > Their objective is the targetting of specific individuals who are involved in the conflict, wherever they are. If they could target specific individuals they definitely would, just like Ukrainian forces killed many high ranking officers (including generals). The fact they don't is just proof they can't.
    - aa-jv 4y ago
      How do you know they're not targetting specific individuals? You don't actually know - but they do say they are specifically going after "those responsible for the terror attacks on Russia" .. Note, I do not support Russia in this conflict - I am against all war, including ours! (West) But it is important to not mis-underestimate ones' enemy - and we don't know for sure that they aren't using the drones to target their terrorists - just like the USA has done, essentially every twenty minutes for the last twenty years.

reducesuffering 4y ago

Corroboration: https://mobile.twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1581878818260029440 https://mobile.twitter.com/yarotrof/status/15818788182600294...

iso1631 4y ago

> The first was unheralded, but for the second, first there was gunfire - I grabbed the camera and went to the window I always remember this from my first hostile environment course. Top things not to do when you hear gunfire or explosions -- run to the nearest glass pane and look to see if you can see what's going on. It's a natural reaction, but that window (and indeed wall) offers no protection from bullets, and an explosion can easily blow out a window and flying glass is not a good thing to be standing besides.

Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
All absolutely true, but I think Kyiv is huge, I'm tiny, and the number of incoming missiles is small; I think it just won't happen. To my thought, it's worth that risk, for the benefit of seeing what happens so I can write about it.
- iso1631 4y ago
  "where I had the window open I felt the blast wave come to my face and body" You're not just risking your own life, if you are injured because of your voyeurism you will be taking up Ukrainian medical resources that could be better spent.
  - Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
    I personally bear more risk crossing the roads during my stay here. Would you advise to stop doing so, to reduce the potential burden on the medical services? As it is, I have private medical insurance, they're a business, I pay them, they provision their services, and provide that service. As such, to my eye, even if I was taking significant risk, which I am not, it would not be an ethical matter, and even this is without any consideration to the benefits of writing about what's going on.

egorfine 4y ago

Я тоже проснулся сегодня от. :(

Max-Ganz-II 4y ago
Будильник Путина.

markus_zhang 4y ago

Just curious I heard that radar guided AA guns are suitable to shoot these things down. Is it true or myth?

prvit 4y ago

> I’m amazed at how slow the missile was. It was not rocket powered, but had an engine. I understand now how they can be shot down. There is time to aim and fire a missile. These slower things are actually quite a challenge for systems designed to shoot down fast moving missiles, it’s easier to filter for unusually fast moving objects than slower ones.

Max-Ganz-II 4y ago

I walked down to the new impact sites earlier. I can't say much, no wish to pass useful information on, but I will say the top floor of a residential building is burned out. I think all the people in those top floor apartments are dead, and I think they died in their sleep or just after waking; it was about 6.30am.

whatwhatwhat_ 4y ago

Isn’t it obvious you should leave that city if there are rockets falling from the sky? And Kyiv would be target #1 for a nuclear strike. Why don’t you run?