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(1) She didn’t plan his gift ahead of time. (2) She made him an accessory to a crime. (3) She stole his gift instead of investing actual effort to save up and

(1) She didn’t plan his gift ahead of time. (2) She made him an accessory to a crime. (3) She stole his gift instead of investing actual effort to save up and purchase it. I know the world will always have its share of thieves and liars, but I’m still always a little taken aback when people are shameless enough to celebrate it. The bare minimum for “marriage material” would have been putting thought into his gift before his birthday, buying it, wrapping it, and surprising him with it.

jyscao 4y ago
you missed the point and/or joke, which is implicitly that crazy girls are great in bed
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the_jesus_villa 4y ago
I can settle this debate: 1. She turned out not be marriage material 2. Y'all are way too sensitive about a teenage girl who shoplifted one time.
- catiopatio 4y ago
  It’s not about the errant teenagers — although I think we can and should expect more of even teenagers. It’s about how you framed and excused your behavior.
  - the_jesus_villa 4y ago
    >It’s about how you framed and excused your behavior. No need for excuses whatsoever - if someone on here has a stolen book they want to gift me, I'll accept it with no shame or guilt. The joke wasn't meant to be an excuse, but for what it's worth, my emotional frame towards what she did is gratitude. I'd love to discuss this with you, since we have interestingly divergent viewpoints on how I should have reacted. Feel free to hit me up: the.jesus.aviles [at] gmail.com
    - catiopatio 4y ago
      > if someone on here has a stolen book they want to gift me, I'll accept it with no shame or guilt. Knowingly accepting stolen property is both unethical and illegal. This isn’t an unexplored ethical frontier; I appreciate the offer for further discussion, but I don’t think there’s anything novel either of us can contribute on the subject.
    - jkepler 4y ago
      > but for what it's worth, my emotional frame towards what she did is gratitude. Sounds to me like the basic conflict here is the OP holds to expressive individualism of the sort historian Carl Trueman describes in his book, The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self [0]; while the commenter appears to believe that moral/ethical reality exists external to human persons, thus stealing and being an accessory to theft are wrong, regardless of one's emotional frame.
      - andi999 4y ago
        Thats interesting, are you saying there are serious people who claim that the wrongness of theft depends on the emotional frame (and havent been paid by russia over the last decades with the intention to subvert western society?)
- Suzuran 4y ago
  She advocated for something incompatible with the complete prohibition of the C programming language, which is a far greater crime than the theft of any physical object.

jyscao 4y ago

you missed the point and/or joke, which is implicitly that crazy girls are great in bed

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the_jesus_villa 4y ago

I can settle this debate: 1. She turned out not be marriage material 2. Y'all are way too sensitive about a teenage girl who shoplifted one time.

catiopatio 4y ago
It’s not about the errant teenagers — although I think we can and should expect more of even teenagers. It’s about how you framed and excused your behavior.
- the_jesus_villa 4y ago
  >It’s about how you framed and excused your behavior. No need for excuses whatsoever - if someone on here has a stolen book they want to gift me, I'll accept it with no shame or guilt. The joke wasn't meant to be an excuse, but for what it's worth, my emotional frame towards what she did is gratitude. I'd love to discuss this with you, since we have interestingly divergent viewpoints on how I should have reacted. Feel free to hit me up: the.jesus.aviles [at] gmail.com
  - catiopatio 4y ago
    > if someone on here has a stolen book they want to gift me, I'll accept it with no shame or guilt. Knowingly accepting stolen property is both unethical and illegal. This isn’t an unexplored ethical frontier; I appreciate the offer for further discussion, but I don’t think there’s anything novel either of us can contribute on the subject.
  - jkepler 4y ago
    > but for what it's worth, my emotional frame towards what she did is gratitude. Sounds to me like the basic conflict here is the OP holds to expressive individualism of the sort historian Carl Trueman describes in his book, The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self [0]; while the commenter appears to believe that moral/ethical reality exists external to human persons, thus stealing and being an accessory to theft are wrong, regardless of one's emotional frame.
    - andi999 4y ago
      Thats interesting, are you saying there are serious people who claim that the wrongness of theft depends on the emotional frame (and havent been paid by russia over the last decades with the intention to subvert western society?)
Suzuran 4y ago
She advocated for something incompatible with the complete prohibition of the C programming language, which is a far greater crime than the theft of any physical object.