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I’d invite you to take a look at the multitude of scientific results on cognitive impairment after infection and the numerous physiological mechanisms which are

I’d invite you to take a look at the multitude of scientific results on cognitive impairment after infection and the numerous physiological mechanisms which are known to be at play. A number of them pop up here on Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=7%2C39&q=covid+cognitive+deficit&btnG= https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=7%2C39&q=cov... Note that this is the only data which has been provided in this discussion as far as I can see right now. What made the commenter’s solid point a solid point? Was there data?

giantg2 4y ago
Please point the pediatric studies, as requested. "In sum, there is clear evidence for a negative effect of COVID-19-related school closures on student achievement" Here's one example of shutdown harm. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481663/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481663/ So now who has the only pertianate data? Don't you have a study pointing the school test scores being lower due to physiological impairment? Please stop trolling this topic now.
- AnthonBerg 4y ago
  Of course shutting down schools did impact grades. Of course it did! In part: Closing schools was poorly executed, and the lockdown/closure style of mitigation was never based in the scientific facts of the main mode of transmission, so it was always a blunt and stupid instrument. For the avoidance of doubt: I’m raising the point that we should look at other things too. And interested in thinking about how we would look. — I don’t have pediatric studies on cognitive impairment. I’ve seen quite a bit of literature on the mechanisms that cause it in adults, and only poor reasoning for children being exempt from severe and/or long-term effects. (Is this disputed?) So I’m for monitoring and studying and looking. And thinking about how to do it.
  - giantg2 4y ago
    "And thinking about how to do it." Essentially you can't. Multiple other factors have changed that would affect grades. If you strictly want intelligence and not just grades, then you'll have to identify kids that had recent intelligence tests before the pandemic and compare them to others. This is problematic because types of intelligence can vary, so some areas might not be covered by the tests. In general, few kids recieve IQ tests and so there's likely to be observation bias with a higher number of kids being tested for some reason. Finally, it's unlikely you could track pre-/post-infection since kids haven't typically been testing every week and mild to asymptomatic cases are fairly common I'm children. Best case, you can do very small studies on an individual level without control groups, essentially individual case studies. Even if you can, it's not going to answer the questions related to this article/thread.
    - AnthonBerg 4y ago
      Well said!, thank you. Sincere thanks. This kind of perspective is precisely where my mind wandered at the top of the thread. Appreciated.

giantg2 4y ago

Please point the pediatric studies, as requested. "In sum, there is clear evidence for a negative effect of COVID-19-related school closures on student achievement" Here's one example of shutdown harm. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481663/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481663/ So now who has the only pertianate data? Don't you have a study pointing the school test scores being lower due to physiological impairment? Please stop trolling this topic now.

AnthonBerg 4y ago
Of course shutting down schools did impact grades. Of course it did! In part: Closing schools was poorly executed, and the lockdown/closure style of mitigation was never based in the scientific facts of the main mode of transmission, so it was always a blunt and stupid instrument. For the avoidance of doubt: I’m raising the point that we should look at other things too. And interested in thinking about how we would look. — I don’t have pediatric studies on cognitive impairment. I’ve seen quite a bit of literature on the mechanisms that cause it in adults, and only poor reasoning for children being exempt from severe and/or long-term effects. (Is this disputed?) So I’m for monitoring and studying and looking. And thinking about how to do it.
- giantg2 4y ago
  "And thinking about how to do it." Essentially you can't. Multiple other factors have changed that would affect grades. If you strictly want intelligence and not just grades, then you'll have to identify kids that had recent intelligence tests before the pandemic and compare them to others. This is problematic because types of intelligence can vary, so some areas might not be covered by the tests. In general, few kids recieve IQ tests and so there's likely to be observation bias with a higher number of kids being tested for some reason. Finally, it's unlikely you could track pre-/post-infection since kids haven't typically been testing every week and mild to asymptomatic cases are fairly common I'm children. Best case, you can do very small studies on an individual level without control groups, essentially individual case studies. Even if you can, it's not going to answer the questions related to this article/thread.
  - AnthonBerg 4y ago
    Well said!, thank you. Sincere thanks. This kind of perspective is precisely where my mind wandered at the top of the thread. Appreciated.