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who said they haven't. for something to show up verbatim in the output of a textual AI model it needs to be an input many times. I wonder if the problem is no

who said they haven't. for something to show up verbatim in the output of a textual AI model it needs to be an input many times. I wonder if the problem is not copilot, but many people using this person's code without license or credit, and copilot being trained on those pieces of code as well. copilot may just be exposing a problem rather than creating one. I don't know much about AI, and I don't use copilot.

belorn 4y ago
Microsoft have a public statement that they don't use proprietary code, only public code with public licenses. They have a lot of companies as customers who uses github, and they also use a lot third-party code in their own products.
- stefan_ 4y ago
  Even BSD et. al. have attribution requirements - that must be a vanishingly small amount of code to be used. Me thinks the people who run GitHub (who have apparently decided to abandon the core business for the latest fun project) aren't being entirely upfront.
- pabs3 4y ago
  I thought they said all public repos without regard to the license they are under, which could be a proprietary EULA.
make3 4y ago
there's exactly no way they have
- naikrovek 4y ago
  I'm curious how you could possibly know that for sure.
  - make3 4y ago
    because Microsoft is known to be extremely protective of their code. there is just no way they would expose their internal code to being straight up decoded from the model, while they can just train the model on the huge public data of GitHub
akudha 4y ago
With the amount of resources that Microsoft has, how hard can it be for them to exclude proprietary code that other people have stolen? I’d bet it is easy for them, but they won’t do it. Because they don’t care, because who is gonna take on them? Will they “accidentally” include proprietary code from say, Oracle? Nope. They’ll make sure of it. But Joe Random? Sure

belorn 4y ago

Microsoft have a public statement that they don't use proprietary code, only public code with public licenses. They have a lot of companies as customers who uses github, and they also use a lot third-party code in their own products.

stefan_ 4y ago
Even BSD et. al. have attribution requirements - that must be a vanishingly small amount of code to be used. Me thinks the people who run GitHub (who have apparently decided to abandon the core business for the latest fun project) aren't being entirely upfront.
pabs3 4y ago
I thought they said all public repos without regard to the license they are under, which could be a proprietary EULA.

make3 4y ago

there's exactly no way they have

naikrovek 4y ago
I'm curious how you could possibly know that for sure.
- make3 4y ago
  because Microsoft is known to be extremely protective of their code. there is just no way they would expose their internal code to being straight up decoded from the model, while they can just train the model on the huge public data of GitHub

akudha 4y ago

With the amount of resources that Microsoft has, how hard can it be for them to exclude proprietary code that other people have stolen? I’d bet it is easy for them, but they won’t do it. Because they don’t care, because who is gonna take on them? Will they “accidentally” include proprietary code from say, Oracle? Nope. They’ll make sure of it. But Joe Random? Sure