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I'm more worried that this is unsurprising to me now rather than it being an issue. The sheer amount of fragmentation, poor engineering, poor commercial decisio

by gw99 4y ago

I'm more worried that this is unsurprising to me now rather than it being an issue. The sheer amount of fragmentation, poor engineering, poor commercial decisions and quality issues that surround the Microsoft ecosystem is quite frankly at this point inexcusable. They really need to get themselves together on the Windows front. Actually all fronts. Even Office is a fucking shit show these days and that was the last bastion of common sense on the platform. As a former MS dev dating all the way back to the early 1990s, I don't own or work with their platforms as of 2021. My pain threshold isn't high enough. I implore the shareholders to kick the entire board out and install some people with good intentions and clue sticks. Until then I will be doing my absolute best to steer everyone I know away from the pain.

phendrenad2 4y ago
A numerator without a denominator is useless. Microsoft's ecosystem is much, much larger and complex than that of Linux (where things just fall over and die if no one touches them for a few years) and MacOS (which aggressively culls old APIs and features).
rolph 4y ago
MS is looking a lot more like another advertising company, but the day late copy others method hasnt left them; its somewhat sophomoric.
kevingadd 4y ago
A release Windows Update (not preview or Insider or whatever) a while back deleted my My Documents folder thanks to quality <unwanted Microsoft product> code. As far as I can tell, no improvements in quality culture or testing have occurred since that time, just a bit of a "mea culpa" over the small detail that Insider testers had been complaining and filing reports about "Windows Update deleted My Documents" and nobody looked at the reports. Another reason to make sure you have automated backups, I guess.
yakubin 4y ago
Work forces me to use Outlook (the web version) and it's the worst mail program I've ever used. I repeatedly need to mark the same mails as read (last week I got a mail which kept marking itself as unread each time I switched to a different folder and back). A more minor, but still ridiculous, thing is that I can't create a top-level folder named "Calendar" (WTH?). But you'll be glad to know they localised this bug, so you actually can't create such a folder using the word for "calendar" in whatever UI language you chose. The default theme makes it really hard to distinguish mails which are read and which are not. I could go on and on. I have no idea how a company like Microsoft releases such a turd to the world. And supposedly they're focused on "The Cloud"(tm) now, not Windows. So it should be in a better state than Windows. When it comes to Windows, I love the overall kernel design. But when it comes to using the system, it seems to really lack polish. The myriad of little dysfunctional details (mostly in things which were added after Windows 7) just kills my ability to work with the system without getting angry at it.
- rewgs 4y ago
  What do you love about the kernel design? I’m a Linux dude so it’s foreign to me.
  - gw99 4y ago
    Not OP but I agree it's quite a nice bit of kit. Shame they shoved so many turds on top. Worth reading the wikipedia architecture page as a launch point for info on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Windows_NT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Windows_NT

by gw99 4y ago

phendrenad2 4y ago

A numerator without a denominator is useless. Microsoft's ecosystem is much, much larger and complex than that of Linux (where things just fall over and die if no one touches them for a few years) and MacOS (which aggressively culls old APIs and features).

rolph 4y ago

MS is looking a lot more like another advertising company, but the day late copy others method hasnt left them; its somewhat sophomoric.

kevingadd 4y ago

A release Windows Update (not preview or Insider or whatever) a while back deleted my My Documents folder thanks to quality <unwanted Microsoft product> code. As far as I can tell, no improvements in quality culture or testing have occurred since that time, just a bit of a "mea culpa" over the small detail that Insider testers had been complaining and filing reports about "Windows Update deleted My Documents" and nobody looked at the reports. Another reason to make sure you have automated backups, I guess.

yakubin 4y ago

Work forces me to use Outlook (the web version) and it's the worst mail program I've ever used. I repeatedly need to mark the same mails as read (last week I got a mail which kept marking itself as unread each time I switched to a different folder and back). A more minor, but still ridiculous, thing is that I can't create a top-level folder named "Calendar" (WTH?). But you'll be glad to know they localised this bug, so you actually can't create such a folder using the word for "calendar" in whatever UI language you chose. The default theme makes it really hard to distinguish mails which are read and which are not. I could go on and on. I have no idea how a company like Microsoft releases such a turd to the world. And supposedly they're focused on "The Cloud"(tm) now, not Windows. So it should be in a better state than Windows. When it comes to Windows, I love the overall kernel design. But when it comes to using the system, it seems to really lack polish. The myriad of little dysfunctional details (mostly in things which were added after Windows 7) just kills my ability to work with the system without getting angry at it.

rewgs 4y ago
What do you love about the kernel design? I’m a Linux dude so it’s foreign to me.
- gw99 4y ago
  Not OP but I agree it's quite a nice bit of kit. Shame they shoved so many turds on top. Worth reading the wikipedia architecture page as a launch point for info on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Windows_NT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Windows_NT