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Security-focused and Google shouldn’t be in the same sentence. Security-driven software should last longer than 14 months before axing the project…

Manu40 4y ago
Came here to say this as well. Actively considering selling my Samsung S20 for a pure linux phone. Something like https://store.planetcom.co.uk/products/cosmo-communicator https://store.planetcom.co.uk/products/cosmo-communicator
- jkepler 4y ago
  /Can/ one run mainline GNU/Linux on the Cosmo Communicator? On their website, it says Linux and Sailfish OS support are planned, but not ready yet. And, will it be pure Linux, or will it be running on top of Androids HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer)? My understanding is that the Pinephone, Pinephone Pro, or Librem 5 are the only pure Linux phones available... and the Librem 5 is 'barely' available given the long lead time on orders. Technically, Maemo Leste is a pure Linux option on some older handsets, but I'm not sure any of them support VoLTE, so increasingly that would mean no telephony support... depending on where one is in the world and whether they've dropped 3G and 4G non-LTE calling. I would love to know if there's other pure Linux options.
  - Manu40 4y ago
    Last I remember checking in on this properly, it was basically as you are asking, but they also had some thing stated somewhere about supporting things like Kali Linux. So I think the answer is ultimately "yes", but eventually.
encryptluks2 4y ago
LOL.. okay, so we should just ignore Kubernetes as being on of the biggest contributions to scalable environments because it was by Google. Time for everyone to stop using Kubernetes and Android and everything else then in favor of the more open platforms like IOS, amiright?
- z9znz 4y ago
  I think the point they parent posters were making is that with Google you really never know which of their projects will live long and which will get axed. That makes Google products risky to build your business on.
  - endisneigh 4y ago
    What company is that not true for?
    - anaganisk 4y ago
      U must be kidding right? Google axes projects like atleast 1/month. Dont try to make it seem normal. https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
      - endisneigh 4y ago
        The tech in the article is open source, lol.
        anaganisk 4y ago
        What does it have to do with anything tho? I mean you could fork Android but its Upstream can still be killed, it wont be maintained by google anymore. You seem to be mixing things.
        endisneigh 4y ago
        Something that’s open source can’t be killed.
        anaganisk 4y ago
        Yes it can, community fork which aint maintained by Google is not google anymore. Fork all you want, if Google kills it from its repos, its still killed by google.
bigyikes 4y ago
When was the last time you heard about a major Google data breach? I’m kind of a Google-hater myself but… there’s few companies that could do better security.
- the_jeremy 4y ago
  2018: https://firewalltimes.com/google-data-breach-timeline/ https://firewalltimes.com/google-data-breach-timeline/
  - joshuamorton 4y ago
    Is that a breach? As far as I know, the description of that is "a google-internal audit found that some information was accessible but shouldn't have been, and found no evidence that that was accessed or used by anyone". "Breach" usually implies actual misuse or access.
- ASalazarMX 4y ago
  Data breaches can happen to anyone, but what the original comment implies is that Google would compromise your security, or at least your privacy, for profit. Its main profit venue is tracking people and selling ads.

Manu40 4y ago

Came here to say this as well. Actively considering selling my Samsung S20 for a pure linux phone. Something like https://store.planetcom.co.uk/products/cosmo-communicator https://store.planetcom.co.uk/products/cosmo-communicator

jkepler 4y ago
/Can/ one run mainline GNU/Linux on the Cosmo Communicator? On their website, it says Linux and Sailfish OS support are planned, but not ready yet. And, will it be pure Linux, or will it be running on top of Androids HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer)? My understanding is that the Pinephone, Pinephone Pro, or Librem 5 are the only pure Linux phones available... and the Librem 5 is 'barely' available given the long lead time on orders. Technically, Maemo Leste is a pure Linux option on some older handsets, but I'm not sure any of them support VoLTE, so increasingly that would mean no telephony support... depending on where one is in the world and whether they've dropped 3G and 4G non-LTE calling. I would love to know if there's other pure Linux options.
- Manu40 4y ago
  Last I remember checking in on this properly, it was basically as you are asking, but they also had some thing stated somewhere about supporting things like Kali Linux. So I think the answer is ultimately "yes", but eventually.

encryptluks2 4y ago

LOL.. okay, so we should just ignore Kubernetes as being on of the biggest contributions to scalable environments because it was by Google. Time for everyone to stop using Kubernetes and Android and everything else then in favor of the more open platforms like IOS, amiright?

z9znz 4y ago
I think the point they parent posters were making is that with Google you really never know which of their projects will live long and which will get axed. That makes Google products risky to build your business on.
- endisneigh 4y ago
  What company is that not true for?
  - anaganisk 4y ago
    U must be kidding right? Google axes projects like atleast 1/month. Dont try to make it seem normal. https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
    - endisneigh 4y ago
      The tech in the article is open source, lol.
      - anaganisk 4y ago
        What does it have to do with anything tho? I mean you could fork Android but its Upstream can still be killed, it wont be maintained by google anymore. You seem to be mixing things.
        endisneigh 4y ago
        Something that’s open source can’t be killed.
        anaganisk 4y ago
        Yes it can, community fork which aint maintained by Google is not google anymore. Fork all you want, if Google kills it from its repos, its still killed by google.

bigyikes 4y ago

When was the last time you heard about a major Google data breach? I’m kind of a Google-hater myself but… there’s few companies that could do better security.

the_jeremy 4y ago
2018: https://firewalltimes.com/google-data-breach-timeline/ https://firewalltimes.com/google-data-breach-timeline/
- joshuamorton 4y ago
  Is that a breach? As far as I know, the description of that is "a google-internal audit found that some information was accessible but shouldn't have been, and found no evidence that that was accessed or used by anyone". "Breach" usually implies actual misuse or access.
ASalazarMX 4y ago
Data breaches can happen to anyone, but what the original comment implies is that Google would compromise your security, or at least your privacy, for profit. Its main profit venue is tracking people and selling ads.