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Advanced weapons don't need 5nm chips. How will this hamper anything in China long term? Germany for example cut off its biggest energy suppliers is preparing f

Advanced weapons don't need 5nm chips. How will this hamper anything in China long term? Germany for example cut off its biggest energy suppliers is preparing for an economic war with China while claiming they're moving to renewables with a supply chain that is owned over 80% by China. Where is Europes manufacturing these days? India, China, Vietnam, Turkey? Turkey is completely alienated by Europe and is turning more extreme by the day as a result(they applied to the "EU" in 1987 btw). Vietnam went to apologize for Blinkens statements to the Chinese representatives not to long ago and India is actively defying western sanctions even though they dislike China and said that their problems with China are not related to the Ukraine situation at all and that they will deal with China on their own if they need to. Usually, when you prepare for a war, you set up alternative supply chains, build up your capabilities, set up your independent energy/natural resource supply chain and then cut off what you consider your enemy. How is Europe to build up their military for a confrontation if they can't even power their own factories? I thought Trump was bad at making these kinds of strategic decisions, but this administration takes the cake. Completely haphazard, ill conceived, badly planned decisions that only make sense if you turn back the clock to 1990. If I was really generous and speculative I'd say that the plan is to make everyone divest to Taiwan in the hopes that Taiwan is then more important to everyone. But can nobody read a map? You have China 100km across the strait and the US 7000 km away. Last time they tried to upgrade the F16s they had to have an emergency landing in Hawaii. We had missile tests on this island which had to be stopped because the missiles had launch failures. This is local Taiwan news. Cut off China completely and move everything to Taiwan. What does China have to lose from invading and embargoing Taiwan at that point? If there is one lesson from the Ukraine conflict its not to turn Taiwan into another Ukraine. It's to start some kind of dialogue, and try to involve parties such as India in that dialogue. EDIT: since the person below had to come up with this "don't talk to terrorists" nonsense, i have to respond. This isn't some bank raid or a high school fight. These are conflicts with the biggest nuclear power that exports 1/3rd of earths natural resources and the biggest manufacturing and military manpower on the planet. You ABSOLUTELY talk to them. Estonia made statements like that as well. You ABSOLUTELY talk to a neighbour that has 377 your surface area in land and the worlds biggest nuclear arsenal. What's wrong with these people? Let's say they are terrorists for the sake of the argument. All the more reason to find a solution. Or if you really want a military confrontation, prepare for it silently and then show your cards when you're ready.

baybal2 4y ago
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throwaway4good 4y ago
Yes. The Biden admin is creating a two-front war with Russia and China. I think a key to understanding their thinking is that they believe that the US is winning wrt. Ukraine. And having solidified European allies, now is the time to use that momentum and full-on confront China. So you would end up with a broken Russia, a humiliated China, and another unipolar American moment like the 90es. https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/12/biden-china-semiconductor-chips-exports-decouple/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/12/biden-china-semiconduct... Biden Is Now All-In on Taking Out China The U.S. president has committed to rapid decoupling, whatever the consequences. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/opinion/china-semiconductors-exports.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/opinion/china-semiconduct... We Are Suddenly Taking On China and Russia at the Same Time A battle over computer chips could have more long-term global impact than the Ukraine war.
- ericmay 4y ago
  > Yes. The Biden admin is creating a two-front war with Russia and China. It’s important to be clear here that this administration isn’t creating a two-front “war” or conflict with Russia and China but responding to egregious activities by both parties. It should also be noted that all of these moves have wide bipartisan support. Something like 99-1 senate votes and the like. Trump, a Republican, campaigned on being tough on China after the Obama administration and enacted punitive trade tariffs and the like. Republicans and Democrats campaign in states like Ohio where manufacturing was hollowed out that they’ll “be tough on China”. Western countries (Germany - Russia, U.S. - China) spent decades trying to open markets and provided peaceful dialog between countries while managing sore spots without conflict. Russia chose to invade Ukraine and disrupt emergent markets. China chose to become a dictatorship and engage in hard-line international policies. It’s important to remember this less as the US and western allies decoupling and more so responding to a decoupling that already occurred lead by both Putin and Jinping. You can know that this is the case because both leaders tell you that this is the case in their “rejection of the international order” or “American lead order” or similar rhetoric.

baybal2 4y ago

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throwaway4good 4y ago

Yes. The Biden admin is creating a two-front war with Russia and China. I think a key to understanding their thinking is that they believe that the US is winning wrt. Ukraine. And having solidified European allies, now is the time to use that momentum and full-on confront China. So you would end up with a broken Russia, a humiliated China, and another unipolar American moment like the 90es. https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/12/biden-china-semiconductor-chips-exports-decouple/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/12/biden-china-semiconduct... Biden Is Now All-In on Taking Out China The U.S. president has committed to rapid decoupling, whatever the consequences. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/opinion/china-semiconductors-exports.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/opinion/china-semiconduct... We Are Suddenly Taking On China and Russia at the Same Time A battle over computer chips could have more long-term global impact than the Ukraine war.

ericmay 4y ago
> Yes. The Biden admin is creating a two-front war with Russia and China. It’s important to be clear here that this administration isn’t creating a two-front “war” or conflict with Russia and China but responding to egregious activities by both parties. It should also be noted that all of these moves have wide bipartisan support. Something like 99-1 senate votes and the like. Trump, a Republican, campaigned on being tough on China after the Obama administration and enacted punitive trade tariffs and the like. Republicans and Democrats campaign in states like Ohio where manufacturing was hollowed out that they’ll “be tough on China”. Western countries (Germany - Russia, U.S. - China) spent decades trying to open markets and provided peaceful dialog between countries while managing sore spots without conflict. Russia chose to invade Ukraine and disrupt emergent markets. China chose to become a dictatorship and engage in hard-line international policies. It’s important to remember this less as the US and western allies decoupling and more so responding to a decoupling that already occurred lead by both Putin and Jinping. You can know that this is the case because both leaders tell you that this is the case in their “rejection of the international order” or “American lead order” or similar rhetoric.