It's just that my car has given me 15 years of service and will, I expect, give me ten more. Many large household appliances can last even longer than that. Mea

It's just that my car has given me 15 years of service and will, I expect, give me ten more. Many large household appliances can last even longer than that. Meanwhile, my phone is only two years old, looks and works perfectly fine, but no longer receives security updates. I just posted an "Ask HN" on Thursday about how to handle this, because it feels ridiculous to replace the phone at this point, but the alternative options seem to suck too. It just seems like there's so much room to improve the situation. You're right about the economics, though. I remember filling out a form on the Best Buy website to see what they'd pay me to recycle a three year-old laptop, and it quoted me $5... So clearly whatever can be recycled from these machines isn't all that valuable.