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As of yet in America, the people willing to actually engage in things like 1-6 are a very small minority, and the ones willing to offer defenses for it are most
by andrewflnr 4y ago
As of yet in America, the people willing to actually engage in things like 1-6 are a very small minority, and the ones willing to offer defenses for it are mostly those who feel trapped, that there's no other way their values can be preserved. These people can still be reached. But giving up hope prematurely is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Anyway, I'm not sure what your counter-proposal is. I assume it's not "just get the civil war started already", but if you actually give up on convincing your political opponents, there's not much left. Oh, there's "go vote!", I guess, but we already knew that one.
- zzzeek 4y agoI'm not saying to forego discourse altogether, im saying that approaching the problem like a missionary ringing your doorbell who will then happily "debate" spirituality is not advised. religious missionaries have literally eternity to get their message across. dire issues like the loss of democracy can't really wait and can't really be reduced to "let's debate and wait for someone to win". "debate" with the goal to "convince one's opponent" is not really what's going on with the discourse that we're seeing. it is a war of sorts, where the "sides" are looking to engage their "side" as much as possible and to demoralize and humiliate the other "side" as much as possible, thereby creating a public impression that it is hoped will sway major political events, primarily through the psychology of who's perceived as "winning" and "losing". also, virtually the entire Republican party from top to bottom supports the 1/6 insurrection, their methods, and their goals, and the party is actively electing attorney generals and governors who will actually see the insurrection through at the state level on the next go-around. The situation is in fact very dire.