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Both are correct. If you indeed know your views are correct, dangerous ones _need_ to be challenged, onlookers need to see that bad ideas have opposition and th

Both are correct. If you indeed know your views are correct, dangerous ones _need_ to be challenged, onlookers need to see that bad ideas have opposition and there are other ways of approaching an issue. At the same time, you also need to acknowledge if someone has a point and have honest discussion. If you always debate and never ever think... "Huh, this guy has a point" then you most likely are not intellectually honest.

oceanplexian 4y ago
I fundamentally don’t agree that ideas can be dangerous (Ironically, I guess this is an argument). However actions are dangerous and people should be held to account by their actions. If you disagree with someone’s ideas you should debate them, or articulate your point of view, not challenge them.
- LocalH 4y ago
  I do agree that ideas can be dangerous, most of those revolve around bigotry and hatred. I don’t know the best solution, but I understand how the ideas are dangerous to others in a very direct way.
- RealityVoid 4y ago
  I think fascism and racism and a lot of other ideas are dangerous and corrosive for society. Some ideas have been guilty of millions of deaths. By the time you try punishing actions, it will have been too late. Now, the countering I advocate does not imply lack of discussion, or denial of the existance of these ideas, but unchallenged discussion, where these dangerous ideas are the only thing "right" is, IMO, very dangerous. You need people to be able to tackle with them, not protectem them like they are a shriveling violet, but this need to happen in a good frame. I used to believe in a sort of laissez-faire internet community environment, no censorship, but just immunization by exposure. But then I saw my dad get seduced over the internet by a group of deeply illogical individuals and I do not believe this is the right course anymore. > articulate your point of view, not challenge them. I see debating ideas as synonymous with challenging them. How is it different in your perception?

oceanplexian 4y ago

I fundamentally don’t agree that ideas can be dangerous (Ironically, I guess this is an argument). However actions are dangerous and people should be held to account by their actions. If you disagree with someone’s ideas you should debate them, or articulate your point of view, not challenge them.

LocalH 4y ago
I do agree that ideas can be dangerous, most of those revolve around bigotry and hatred. I don’t know the best solution, but I understand how the ideas are dangerous to others in a very direct way.
RealityVoid 4y ago
I think fascism and racism and a lot of other ideas are dangerous and corrosive for society. Some ideas have been guilty of millions of deaths. By the time you try punishing actions, it will have been too late. Now, the countering I advocate does not imply lack of discussion, or denial of the existance of these ideas, but unchallenged discussion, where these dangerous ideas are the only thing "right" is, IMO, very dangerous. You need people to be able to tackle with them, not protectem them like they are a shriveling violet, but this need to happen in a good frame. I used to believe in a sort of laissez-faire internet community environment, no censorship, but just immunization by exposure. But then I saw my dad get seduced over the internet by a group of deeply illogical individuals and I do not believe this is the right course anymore. > articulate your point of view, not challenge them. I see debating ideas as synonymous with challenging them. How is it different in your perception?