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His explanation makes sense to me, and I don't think it was an argument to begin with. 15%, 7% - that sounds like a problem one would encounter "often" to me. I

His explanation makes sense to me, and I don't think it was an argument to begin with. 15%, 7% - that sounds like a problem one would encounter "often" to me. It sounds like you're actually both in agreement. The weight issue has gotten bigger because, well, people have gotten bigger while the infrastructure for storing bodies remains the same. This all seems relatively straightforward and unsurprising. We have the same type of problem with other old infrastructure built to hold human bodies -- like airplane seats. Today I learned that I'm apparently too tall to donate my body to science. Now that's surprising!

Kranar 4y ago
Americans aren't getting that much taller, but they are rapidly getting fatter and fatter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Obesity_in_the_United_States.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States#/... Singling out a statistically spurious reason to dismiss a major factor is weak.
- throwaway09223 4y ago
  I don't see anyone dismissing anything. I did see an explanation as to why things are the way they are.
  - Kranar 4y ago
    The dismissal is in the last sentence: >A lot of hedging and hemming aside, I think I've pretty much captured the whole article. The article is not hedging or hemming anything, it's making it very clear that the main reason why bodies are being rejected is due to obesity as opposed to people being too tall. Furthermore, the article is arguing that this is a problem that is only going to get worse since people are getting more and more obese, but not more and more tall.
    - throwaway09223 4y ago
      No, that isn't a dismissal. I think it's clear you're fundamentally misunderstanding the points being made. You're arguing against stances that no one here has taken.
      - Kranar 4y ago
        That is a dismissal and the fact that you have failed to clarify any point whatsoever and are keeping your statements vague and ambiguous suggests you're either trolling or are genuinely ignorant. My original comment was to add precision to what was an otherwise fairly open-ended claim; to turn the "often too tall" into a precise figure of 7%. The article is not about that 7%, which is a figure that has likely remained fairly consistent for decades. Instead, the bulk of the article is about the 40% of Americans who are too obese. You have decided to dwell on a detail that 7% is actually significant (ignoring the fact that there's a lot of overlap between the 7% of Americans who are over 6' and those who are obese) and in doing so have turned this into a petty semantic argument. What exactly do you think it means to claim that an article is hedging and hemming? If you're actually arguing in good faith instead of trolling, you should be able to provide a clear answer to that, but something tells me you won't and will instead continue to repeat the same semantic drivel over and over again.

Kranar 4y ago

Americans aren't getting that much taller, but they are rapidly getting fatter and fatter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Obesity_in_the_United_States.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States#/... Singling out a statistically spurious reason to dismiss a major factor is weak.

throwaway09223 4y ago
I don't see anyone dismissing anything. I did see an explanation as to why things are the way they are.
- Kranar 4y ago
  The dismissal is in the last sentence: >A lot of hedging and hemming aside, I think I've pretty much captured the whole article. The article is not hedging or hemming anything, it's making it very clear that the main reason why bodies are being rejected is due to obesity as opposed to people being too tall. Furthermore, the article is arguing that this is a problem that is only going to get worse since people are getting more and more obese, but not more and more tall.
  - throwaway09223 4y ago
    No, that isn't a dismissal. I think it's clear you're fundamentally misunderstanding the points being made. You're arguing against stances that no one here has taken.
    - Kranar 4y ago
      That is a dismissal and the fact that you have failed to clarify any point whatsoever and are keeping your statements vague and ambiguous suggests you're either trolling or are genuinely ignorant. My original comment was to add precision to what was an otherwise fairly open-ended claim; to turn the "often too tall" into a precise figure of 7%. The article is not about that 7%, which is a figure that has likely remained fairly consistent for decades. Instead, the bulk of the article is about the 40% of Americans who are too obese. You have decided to dwell on a detail that 7% is actually significant (ignoring the fact that there's a lot of overlap between the 7% of Americans who are over 6' and those who are obese) and in doing so have turned this into a petty semantic argument. What exactly do you think it means to claim that an article is hedging and hemming? If you're actually arguing in good faith instead of trolling, you should be able to provide a clear answer to that, but something tells me you won't and will instead continue to repeat the same semantic drivel over and over again.