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Yes, that is in fact the subject of the lawsuit. From literally the first sentence of the article: > alleges the Silicon Valley giant misled the public about

Yes, that is in fact the subject of the lawsuit. From literally the first sentence of the article: > alleges the Silicon Valley giant misled the public about how much data it collects from users even when they're in its Chrome browser's "Incognito" private browsing mode. The accusation is that Google is leveraging Chrome to track you even in incognito mode, and it does not give any notice that it is doing so. It warns about the websites you visit, about who owns your local network, and about the ISP, it doesn't warn that Google is still actively tracking you in incognito.

Spivak 4y ago
Every source about this lawsuit has said that what is meant by this is Google tracking you on Google properties. Unless they outline how the tracking is done it’s pointless.
- lamontcg 4y ago
  https://casetext.com/case/brown-v-google-llc https://casetext.com/case/brown-v-google-llc
  - Spivak 4y ago
    > through means that include Google Analytics, Google ‘fingerprinting’ techniques, concurrent Google applications and processes on a consumer's device, and Google's Ad Manager… So not using Chrome. They’re arguing that Google is collecting the usual web tracking and that other Google apps a user might have collect user data.
sangnoir 4y ago
Can you explain how Google tracks users in incognito mode outside of the websites they visit? If there's no client-side Chrome telemetry in incognito mode, why should Google be special-cased when all ad networks can do the same thing that Chrome caveats explicitly?
- lamontcg 4y ago
  > 2. Google's Alleged Collection of Plaintiffs’ Data > Plaintiffs allege that Google collects data from them while they are in private browsing mode "through means that include Google Analytics, Google ‘fingerprinting’ techniques, concurrent Google applications and processes on a consumer's device, and Google's Ad Manager." Id. ¶ 8. According to Plaintiffs, "[m]ore than 70% of all online publishers (websites) use one or more of these Google services." > Specifically, Plaintiffs allege that, whenever a user, including a user in private browsing mode, visits a website that is running Google Analytics or Google Ad Manager, "Google's software scripts on the website surreptitiously direct the user's browser to send a secret, separate message to Google's servers in California." Id. ¶ 63. This message includes six elements, each of which is discussed below. [...followed by a lot of detail on what gets tracked...] https://casetext.com/case/brown-v-google-llc https://casetext.com/case/brown-v-google-llc So there is client-side telemetry which completely de-anonymizes and geolocates you and Google tracks you in incognito mode everywhere that Google Analytics is deployed (~70% of the web). If you use incognito mode and visit porn sites that use Google Analytics, then Google has your complete de-anonymized porn surfing history in their databases. This is not what people are led to believe is happening by the incognito warning message.
  - ryeights 4y ago
    > So there is client-side telemetry which completely de-anonymizes and geolocates you This is not supported by the quote you posted.
    - lamontcg 4y ago
      - ryeights 4y ago
        > whenever a user, including a user in private browsing mode, visits a website that is running Google Analytics or Google Ad Manager, "Google's software scripts on the website surreptitiously direct the user's browser to send a secret, separate message to Google's servers in California." Which part of this indicates that the Chrome client contains code giving Google special privileges to track users in incognito mode that other websites don’t have access to? >Google's software scripts on the website surreptitiously direct the user's browser is referring to JavaScript. Any other analytics platform could (and does) do the exact same thing.

Spivak 4y ago

Every source about this lawsuit has said that what is meant by this is Google tracking you on Google properties. Unless they outline how the tracking is done it’s pointless.

lamontcg 4y ago
https://casetext.com/case/brown-v-google-llc https://casetext.com/case/brown-v-google-llc
- Spivak 4y ago
  > through means that include Google Analytics, Google ‘fingerprinting’ techniques, concurrent Google applications and processes on a consumer's device, and Google's Ad Manager… So not using Chrome. They’re arguing that Google is collecting the usual web tracking and that other Google apps a user might have collect user data.

sangnoir 4y ago

Can you explain how Google tracks users in incognito mode outside of the websites they visit? If there's no client-side Chrome telemetry in incognito mode, why should Google be special-cased when all ad networks can do the same thing that Chrome caveats explicitly?

lamontcg 4y ago
> 2. Google's Alleged Collection of Plaintiffs’ Data > Plaintiffs allege that Google collects data from them while they are in private browsing mode "through means that include Google Analytics, Google ‘fingerprinting’ techniques, concurrent Google applications and processes on a consumer's device, and Google's Ad Manager." Id. ¶ 8. According to Plaintiffs, "[m]ore than 70% of all online publishers (websites) use one or more of these Google services." > Specifically, Plaintiffs allege that, whenever a user, including a user in private browsing mode, visits a website that is running Google Analytics or Google Ad Manager, "Google's software scripts on the website surreptitiously direct the user's browser to send a secret, separate message to Google's servers in California." Id. ¶ 63. This message includes six elements, each of which is discussed below. [...followed by a lot of detail on what gets tracked...] https://casetext.com/case/brown-v-google-llc https://casetext.com/case/brown-v-google-llc So there is client-side telemetry which completely de-anonymizes and geolocates you and Google tracks you in incognito mode everywhere that Google Analytics is deployed (~70% of the web). If you use incognito mode and visit porn sites that use Google Analytics, then Google has your complete de-anonymized porn surfing history in their databases. This is not what people are led to believe is happening by the incognito warning message.
- ryeights 4y ago
  > So there is client-side telemetry which completely de-anonymizes and geolocates you This is not supported by the quote you posted.
  - lamontcg 4y ago
    - ryeights 4y ago
      > whenever a user, including a user in private browsing mode, visits a website that is running Google Analytics or Google Ad Manager, "Google's software scripts on the website surreptitiously direct the user's browser to send a secret, separate message to Google's servers in California." Which part of this indicates that the Chrome client contains code giving Google special privileges to track users in incognito mode that other websites don’t have access to? >Google's software scripts on the website surreptitiously direct the user's browser is referring to JavaScript. Any other analytics platform could (and does) do the exact same thing.