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The risk of myocarditis is 11 times higher for unvaccinated individuals getting COVID than it is for people receiving the vaccine[0]: “In a detailed analysis o

The risk of myocarditis is 11 times higher for unvaccinated individuals getting COVID than it is for people receiving the vaccine[0]: “In a detailed analysis of nearly 43 million people, the risk of myocarditis in unvaccinated individuals after COVID-19 infection was at least 11 times higher compared to people who developed myocarditis after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine or booster dose, according to new research published today in the American Heart Association’s flagship, peer-reviewed journal Circulation. This analysis included data from England’s National Immunization database for people ages 13 and older who received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine between December 1, 2020 and December 15, 2021 in England.” 0: https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significantly-higher-after-covid-19-infection-vs-after-a-covid-19-vaccine https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significant...

FooledAgain 4y ago
Not true for young men getting the Moderna vaccine, and then you have 2x exposure to myocarditis risk factors for no benefit.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
  - FooledAgain 4y ago
    - lostlogin 4y ago
      It’s an interesting argument. Here is a paragraph from the article: “In men younger than 40 years, we estimate an additional 4 (95% CI, 2–6) and 14 (95% CI, 5–17) myocarditis events per million in the 1 to 28 days after a first dose of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively; and an additional 14 (95% CI, 8–17), 11 (95% CI, 9–13) and 97 (95% CI, 91–99) myocarditis events after a second dose of ChAdOx1, BNT162b2, and mRNA-1273, respectively. These estimates compare with an additional 16 (95% CI, 12–18) myocarditis events per million men younger than 40 years in the 1 to 28 days after a SARS-CoV-2–positive test before vaccination.” At those numbers the vaccines are causing myocarditis more than covid, but only in young men and not causing a lot more. If you lump in the multitude of other things covid causes, I’m still picking the vaccine as the lesser evil. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.059970 https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.0...
SnowProblem 4y ago
Not true for men under 40, which happens to be the HN demographic.
- akomtu 4y ago
  There is a large case study. South Africa, which is much younger than America, ignored the omicron wave. How are they suffering from the 11x higher risk of myocarditis now? Rhetorical question.

FooledAgain 4y ago

Not true for young men getting the Moderna vaccine, and then you have 2x exposure to myocarditis risk factors for no benefit.

SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
- FooledAgain 4y ago
  - lostlogin 4y ago
    It’s an interesting argument. Here is a paragraph from the article: “In men younger than 40 years, we estimate an additional 4 (95% CI, 2–6) and 14 (95% CI, 5–17) myocarditis events per million in the 1 to 28 days after a first dose of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively; and an additional 14 (95% CI, 8–17), 11 (95% CI, 9–13) and 97 (95% CI, 91–99) myocarditis events after a second dose of ChAdOx1, BNT162b2, and mRNA-1273, respectively. These estimates compare with an additional 16 (95% CI, 12–18) myocarditis events per million men younger than 40 years in the 1 to 28 days after a SARS-CoV-2–positive test before vaccination.” At those numbers the vaccines are causing myocarditis more than covid, but only in young men and not causing a lot more. If you lump in the multitude of other things covid causes, I’m still picking the vaccine as the lesser evil. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.059970 https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.0...

SnowProblem 4y ago

Not true for men under 40, which happens to be the HN demographic.

akomtu 4y ago
There is a large case study. South Africa, which is much younger than America, ignored the omicron wave. How are they suffering from the 11x higher risk of myocarditis now? Rhetorical question.