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A similar thing was done with a violinist a couple of years ago: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/watch-musician-play-violin-during-brain-surgery-1809

A similar thing was done with a violinist a couple of years ago: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/watch-musician-play-violin-during-brain-surgery-180974246/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/watch-musician-pla... Related research study on the practice: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32505870/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32505870/ If I ever need brain surgery, I guess they'll probably have me try to respond to JIRA tickets and troubleshoot npm dependency conflicts during the operation.

marstall 4y ago
lol!
bombcar 4y ago
I’d be afraid that using JIRA would register as complete brain death.
ASalazarMX 4y ago
- Not a problem - Works as designed - It's a feature - This is egregious! I'll get to fix it immediately Doctors: Oh no, we cut too much!
- zasdffaa 4y ago
  WONTFIX - (skull closed)
q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 4y ago
I've always wondered about this. Is there a doctor in the house who could clarify the value of having this kind of lagging indicator? Presumably, the idea of having the musician playing is to give the doctor a heads-up in case they slice into a valuable area of the brain. But, by the time the music playing is affected, the slice would have already happened — so then, what's the point? I agree it's a great way to harvest social media likes (which presumably helps pay the medical bills, so I suppose it's nothing to sneeze at). But it's tough to see how it'd meaningfully help a fine-grained surgery. That abstract on PubMed ^ seems to say much the same: > ...playing music did not improve or modify surgery.
- simon_acca 4y ago
  They are not slicing while the guy is playing. Rather they stimulate electrically the area that they are about to slice to check if brain function is affected.
  - q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 4y ago
    Ah, so it's actually a leading indicator. I guess that's obvious now that you've mentioned it, but for some reason it never occurred to me. Thanks!
  - stephencanon 4y ago
    Yeah, my wife does these surgeries sometimes, this is exactly it.
    - BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
      Isn’t it incredible that for how advanced modern medicine is, we’ve essentially found something so complicated that the best we can do is poke around and see what happens?
      - smabie 4y ago
        Sounds similar to programming
      - stephencanon 4y ago
        It's a bit more sophisticated than that; she knows almost precisely what is going to happen, but the exact boundaries of the fluent brain that she's looking for are not clearly marked, and brain moves around a little; these are not solid-state circuits, so without this check you would have to err on the side of caution, which is contrary to the goal of removing as much tumor as possible. Probing ahead of where they're going to resect is a simple and effective solution.
- throwthere 4y ago
  Skim through this from UCSF for more info-- https://braintumorcenter.ucsf.edu/treatment/surgery/brain-mapping https://braintumorcenter.ucsf.edu/treatment/surgery/brain-ma...
busyant 4y ago
> If I ever need brain surgery, I guess they'll probably have me try to respond to JIRA tickets and troubleshoot npm dependency for me they will ask me to play chess. and they will stop cutting when i start making good moves.
panzi 4y ago
Man dicks around on YouTube through 9 hour complex brain surgery to remove tumor.
- smckk 4y ago
  Man performs surgery through 9 hour complex brain surgery.

marstall 4y ago

lol!

bombcar 4y ago

I’d be afraid that using JIRA would register as complete brain death.

ASalazarMX 4y ago

- Not a problem - Works as designed - It's a feature - This is egregious! I'll get to fix it immediately Doctors: Oh no, we cut too much!

zasdffaa 4y ago
WONTFIX - (skull closed)

q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 4y ago

I've always wondered about this. Is there a doctor in the house who could clarify the value of having this kind of lagging indicator? Presumably, the idea of having the musician playing is to give the doctor a heads-up in case they slice into a valuable area of the brain. But, by the time the music playing is affected, the slice would have already happened — so then, what's the point? I agree it's a great way to harvest social media likes (which presumably helps pay the medical bills, so I suppose it's nothing to sneeze at). But it's tough to see how it'd meaningfully help a fine-grained surgery. That abstract on PubMed ^ seems to say much the same: > ...playing music did not improve or modify surgery.

simon_acca 4y ago
They are not slicing while the guy is playing. Rather they stimulate electrically the area that they are about to slice to check if brain function is affected.
- q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 4y ago
  Ah, so it's actually a leading indicator. I guess that's obvious now that you've mentioned it, but for some reason it never occurred to me. Thanks!
- stephencanon 4y ago
  Yeah, my wife does these surgeries sometimes, this is exactly it.
  - BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
    Isn’t it incredible that for how advanced modern medicine is, we’ve essentially found something so complicated that the best we can do is poke around and see what happens?
    - smabie 4y ago
      Sounds similar to programming
    - stephencanon 4y ago
      It's a bit more sophisticated than that; she knows almost precisely what is going to happen, but the exact boundaries of the fluent brain that she's looking for are not clearly marked, and brain moves around a little; these are not solid-state circuits, so without this check you would have to err on the side of caution, which is contrary to the goal of removing as much tumor as possible. Probing ahead of where they're going to resect is a simple and effective solution.
throwthere 4y ago
Skim through this from UCSF for more info-- https://braintumorcenter.ucsf.edu/treatment/surgery/brain-mapping https://braintumorcenter.ucsf.edu/treatment/surgery/brain-ma...

busyant 4y ago

> If I ever need brain surgery, I guess they'll probably have me try to respond to JIRA tickets and troubleshoot npm dependency for me they will ask me to play chess. and they will stop cutting when i start making good moves.

panzi 4y ago

Man dicks around on YouTube through 9 hour complex brain surgery to remove tumor.

smckk 4y ago
Man performs surgery through 9 hour complex brain surgery.