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> Yes, but Robbie Coltrane wasn't socially outcast. Degrees on the same scale > Replaced "bullied" with "criticized". Criticized publicly and unfairly, I'll

> Yes, but Robbie Coltrane wasn't socially outcast. Degrees on the same scale > Replaced "bullied" with "criticized". Criticized publicly and unfairly, I'll stick with bullied. > The President of the United States is routinely and vehemently criticized. Hated by millions of people. And yet, he is not socially outcast. Nor is he bullied. I am sure he suffers from any amount of bullying and criticism he's receiving that he knows about.

gremlinsinc 4y ago
>> The President of the United States is routinely and vehemently criticized. Hated by millions of people. And yet, he is not socially outcast. Nor is he bullied. > I am sure he suffers from any amount of bullying and criticism he's receiving that he knows about. Doubtful, given he's probably insulated from that because as a politician 100% of his career he's always had roughly 50% of the people against him give or take. Trump on the other hand couldn't take criticism because he wasn't a career politician, which would be a breath of fresh air honestly if it wasn't a rich narcissist at the wheel. Maybe a school teacher, or musician, hell even Tom Hanks. He got sucked into twitter wars, the current admin has a hotshot Twitter team that delivers blows but again keeps him insulated from it. That's the mark of a leader. I say this as someone who did NOT vote for Joe because I refuse to vote for an establishment candidate for the Presidential ticket, though I was relieved he won, for the sake of democracy and so we don't devolve into fascism. I was also glad Trump won though, not because I wanted anything he was selling but felt maybe having the crappiest timeline might push the left to the progressives if we fully just give up supporting them. It kinda worked. Overton window has shifted maybe 0.2 % but any give is good. I don't expect great things from Joe, not by a long shot. I long for the day that the presidential races are decided by ranked choice voting or similar systems. Then maybe we can get some good leaders from regular society who maybe could lead better than the rich bastards who run everything else. I mean it worked well for Ukraine, sure President Zelenskyy wasn't always the best, and had issues earlier in his Presidency, and such but he was a freaking actor and comedian, now he's a war hero and rightly so. The west gave him a ticket out, to escape and he stayed with his people to fight. That's pretty bold. You know none of our leaders on either side would be brave enough for that.

gremlinsinc 4y ago

>> The President of the United States is routinely and vehemently criticized. Hated by millions of people. And yet, he is not socially outcast. Nor is he bullied. > I am sure he suffers from any amount of bullying and criticism he's receiving that he knows about. Doubtful, given he's probably insulated from that because as a politician 100% of his career he's always had roughly 50% of the people against him give or take. Trump on the other hand couldn't take criticism because he wasn't a career politician, which would be a breath of fresh air honestly if it wasn't a rich narcissist at the wheel. Maybe a school teacher, or musician, hell even Tom Hanks. He got sucked into twitter wars, the current admin has a hotshot Twitter team that delivers blows but again keeps him insulated from it. That's the mark of a leader. I say this as someone who did NOT vote for Joe because I refuse to vote for an establishment candidate for the Presidential ticket, though I was relieved he won, for the sake of democracy and so we don't devolve into fascism. I was also glad Trump won though, not because I wanted anything he was selling but felt maybe having the crappiest timeline might push the left to the progressives if we fully just give up supporting them. It kinda worked. Overton window has shifted maybe 0.2 % but any give is good. I don't expect great things from Joe, not by a long shot. I long for the day that the presidential races are decided by ranked choice voting or similar systems. Then maybe we can get some good leaders from regular society who maybe could lead better than the rich bastards who run everything else. I mean it worked well for Ukraine, sure President Zelenskyy wasn't always the best, and had issues earlier in his Presidency, and such but he was a freaking actor and comedian, now he's a war hero and rightly so. The west gave him a ticket out, to escape and he stayed with his people to fight. That's pretty bold. You know none of our leaders on either side would be brave enough for that.