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This article has a blind spot large enough to drive a truck through, related to the author's apparent belief that we all live in some kind of bucolic pre-indust
by photochemsyn 4y ago
This article has a blind spot large enough to drive a truck through, related to the author's apparent belief that we all live in some kind of bucolic pre-industrial society. Take this claim:
> "People who grow up on farms are generally less likely to develop asthma, allergies, or auto-immune disorders like Crohn's disease – thanks, apparently, to their childhood exposure to a more diverse range of organisms in the rural environment that had encouraged more effective regulation of the immune system."
The vast majority of farming in the USA and Britain is industrialized and relies heavily on regular application of pesticides and herbicides in the fields. Animal farming is centered on factory farms where animals are kept in close quarters and given antibiotics and hormones to prevent disease outbreaks and increase growth rates. The fecese and urine from these operations stink for miles around.
Childhood exposure to such environments results in everything from asthma to neurological damage - see Parkinsons relationship to organophosphorous pesticides, say. Another concrete example: methyl bromide in the strawberry fields of California:
https://www.ewg.org/research/heavy-methyl-bromide-use-near-california-schools https://www.ewg.org/research/heavy-methyl-bromide-use-near-c...
That's the industrial agriculture reality, so packing your kids off to such farms to get their dose of 'good natural microbes' is inadvisable. It's just half the equation, however, as other kinds of industrial activity have loaded up soils with all kinds of chemical contaminants, from heavy metals (sometimes radioactive) to persistent organics with negative health effects. For example, anyone living downwind of an oil refinery or coal power plant, or around a uranium mine etc., should thing twice about galavanting through the local mudholes. Richmond, in California downwind from Chevron and other refineries, is a case example:
https://www.ehn.org/pollution-poverty-richmond-2645503359.html https://www.ehn.org/pollution-poverty-richmond-2645503359.ht...
Even without the modern industrial-related issues, historically animal farming has been linked to all kinds of parasite issues, such as the hookworm pandemic that afflicted the American South for many decades (linked to pig farms). The 'get in touch with nature on a nice organic farm' theme should be tempered by such realities, i.e.:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/how-a-worm-gave-the-south-a-bad-name/ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/how-a-worm-gave-the-so...
However, direct interactions with relatively pristine natural environments are likely great for kids (and adults), and the notion that ultra-sterile equals ultra-healthy doesn't make any sense either.
- dominotw 4y agohttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11597666/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11597666/
- photochemsyn 4y agoAsthma is a bit more complicated than that, and the urban/rural breakdown seems highly site-specific. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23625129/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23625129/ > "Although evidence shows that differences in the prevalence of asthma do exist between urban and rural dwellers in many parts of the world, including in developed countries, data are inadequate to evaluate the extent to which different pollutant exposures contribute to asthma morbidity and severity of asthma between urban and rural areas."
- telesilla 4y ago>The vast majority of farming in the USA and Britain is industrialised Where I grew up farming was not industrial to the extent it has become, and I never met any single person with allergies until I moved to the city, neither did we experience pandemics. I known this is not just my experience. Isn't there some value, to see how children grew up with access to grass and dirt, yet also to sanitary conditions inside the home, hospitals and schools? Perhaps it was due to the period of my childhood and the smaller nature of farming, plus it was a fairly wealthy part of the world considering.
- ch4s3 4y agoI grew up on a pretty old, small farm that mostly had some animals and garden plots. I have asthma and severe allergies. I’m especially allergic to horses and dogs, which we had in abundance. I also spent about 20 weekends a year camping from about age 10 to 18. I can’t say it did anything for my immune system.
- Eumenes 4y agoSounds like genetics?
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