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> Things are moving very quickly in PV. Hope is not a plan. As Germany is going to find out this winter.

tchaffee 4y ago
It's not hope. Things have moved quickly. This discussion started with the false claim that solar needs sunny California type weather. Which was true in recent history. Now it does not need California type weather. Cleve Hill solar park will run as a for-profit commercial enterprise, without government subsidies. In cloudy UK. UK being located at the northern part of the planet. > As Germany is going to find out this winter. Germany's problems have more to do with the non-viability of relying on Russian gas than on anything else. You can predict things like the Ukraine war as well as you can predict an earthquake at Fukushima. Or as well as you can predict Westinghouse Electric declaring bankruptcy over the Vogtle nuclear plant in discussion. Not a great look for nuclear when the government needs to step in and guarantee loans.
- Turing_Machine 4y ago
  > This discussion started with the false claim that solar needs sunny California type weather. There was no such claim. Again, I think we're done here.
  - tchaffee 4y ago
    > There was no such claim. Anyone can read to the top of thread and see that you are wrong about what started the discussion. > Again, I think we are done here. Are you an airplane? You don't need to keep announcing your delayed departure. You can just really leave.
tuatoru 4y ago
How does nuclear help Germany this winter? Bear in mind Russia makes about half the world's nuclear fuel and has been sanctioned, and Germany's plants need refueling. Things are stalled in nuclear. Hope is, indeed, not a plan. A plan is a plan, and PV has one. Wind has another. Straightforward engineering optimisations, hundreds of them, all adding up, with few political considerations. (I won't say no political considerations, because there are always people who will cut off their nose to spite their face.) Nuclear has hope and promises.
- Turing_Machine 4y ago
  > How does nuclear help Germany this winter? Well, it doesn't, because they've shut all their nuclear plants down. That's rather the point, yo.
  - tchaffee 4y ago
    So you need years and years to build nuclear don't you? Sounds like hopium to rely on an unpopular source of energy that has decades long contruction times. And the builder has to declare bankruptcy. Wind and solar are far faster and less risky financially to build. Yo.

It's not hope. Things have moved quickly. This discussion started with the false claim that solar needs sunny California type weather. Which was true in recent history. Now it does not need California type weather. Cleve Hill solar park will run as a for-profit commercial enterprise, without government subsidies. In cloudy UK. UK being located at the northern part of the planet. > As Germany is going to find out this winter. Germany's problems have more to do with the non-viability of relying on Russian gas than on anything else. You can predict things like the Ukraine war as well as you can predict an earthquake at Fukushima. Or as well as you can predict Westinghouse Electric declaring bankruptcy over the Vogtle nuclear plant in discussion. Not a great look for nuclear when the government needs to step in and guarantee loans.

Turing_Machine 4y ago
> This discussion started with the false claim that solar needs sunny California type weather. There was no such claim. Again, I think we're done here.
- tchaffee 4y ago
  > There was no such claim. Anyone can read to the top of thread and see that you are wrong about what started the discussion. > Again, I think we are done here. Are you an airplane? You don't need to keep announcing your delayed departure. You can just really leave.

tuatoru 4y ago

How does nuclear help Germany this winter? Bear in mind Russia makes about half the world's nuclear fuel and has been sanctioned, and Germany's plants need refueling. Things are stalled in nuclear. Hope is, indeed, not a plan. A plan is a plan, and PV has one. Wind has another. Straightforward engineering optimisations, hundreds of them, all adding up, with few political considerations. (I won't say no political considerations, because there are always people who will cut off their nose to spite their face.) Nuclear has hope and promises.

Turing_Machine 4y ago
> How does nuclear help Germany this winter? Well, it doesn't, because they've shut all their nuclear plants down. That's rather the point, yo.
- tchaffee 4y ago
  So you need years and years to build nuclear don't you? Sounds like hopium to rely on an unpopular source of energy that has decades long contruction times. And the builder has to declare bankruptcy. Wind and solar are far faster and less risky financially to build. Yo.