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Momentum isn’t far left, the Communist Party of Britain is. Labour wasn’t taken over by Momentum, people that liked Corbyn joined Labour. And finally, antisemit

Momentum isn’t far left, the Communist Party of Britain is. Labour wasn’t taken over by Momentum, people that liked Corbyn joined Labour. And finally, antisemitism accusations were used cynically by the right of Labour for years, trying to equate anti-Zionism with antisemitism. Have a look at the Labour Files at least. So not even a little.

nailer 4y ago
> Momentum isn’t far left, the Communist Party of Britain is. If you support terror groups - and I mean in the strictest sense, as in people that attack civilians - you're on the far edge of politics. Before you shout that Corbyn was 'reaching out' to terrorists by saying they're his friends, that punishing people that killed innocent people in Brighton was a show trial, or laying wreaths at their funerals: everyone involved in Northern Ireland or the Middle East peace processes claims that Corbyn, a Labour back bencher at the time, had nothing to do with either of the Northern Ireland or the Middle East peace process. > People that liked Corbyn joined Labour Because of a Momentum campaign that cynically exploited a brief moment allowing anyone to join the Labour party for 5 pounds. > antisemitism accusations were used cynically by the right of Labour for years And obviously the far left is still denying them even after the party's own investigation found they had substance.
- MarkMarine 4y ago
  This is hacker news not Facebook. If you want to argue politics go there.
  - nailer 4y ago
    Political discussion is allowed by the HN guidelines and I’m responding to something you brought up, newcomer.
    - MarkMarine 4y ago
      You’re just spitting out agitprop with no underlying point except “left bad.” It’s not well thought out or discussed with room to agree or disagree, or even based in fact, you’re basically just shouting into the void about something you don’t like. That brings down the level of discourse here, and belongs on Facebook where you can share memes with a bunch of smooth brained people that agree with you.
      - nailer 4y ago
        > it’s not even based on fact Pardon? What specifically of the very specific, widely accepted points of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33215270 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33215270 was not based in fact? If you think my points are issues with the mainstream left rather than the far left I don’t think you’ve been reading the posts you keep writing replies to.
        MarkMarine 4y ago
        I’m not going to put effort into describing where and why you’re wrong, I don’t think talking to you is worth the effort. You’ll never change your beliefs.
        nailer 4y ago
        Fair enough. I’ll point out as that as the person complaining about the level of discourse you’re the only person in this conversation that has resorted to insults and refused to address reasonable questions.

nailer 4y ago

> Momentum isn’t far left, the Communist Party of Britain is. If you support terror groups - and I mean in the strictest sense, as in people that attack civilians - you're on the far edge of politics. Before you shout that Corbyn was 'reaching out' to terrorists by saying they're his friends, that punishing people that killed innocent people in Brighton was a show trial, or laying wreaths at their funerals: everyone involved in Northern Ireland or the Middle East peace processes claims that Corbyn, a Labour back bencher at the time, had nothing to do with either of the Northern Ireland or the Middle East peace process. > People that liked Corbyn joined Labour Because of a Momentum campaign that cynically exploited a brief moment allowing anyone to join the Labour party for 5 pounds. > antisemitism accusations were used cynically by the right of Labour for years And obviously the far left is still denying them even after the party's own investigation found they had substance.

MarkMarine 4y ago
This is hacker news not Facebook. If you want to argue politics go there.
- nailer 4y ago
  Political discussion is allowed by the HN guidelines and I’m responding to something you brought up, newcomer.
  - MarkMarine 4y ago
    You’re just spitting out agitprop with no underlying point except “left bad.” It’s not well thought out or discussed with room to agree or disagree, or even based in fact, you’re basically just shouting into the void about something you don’t like. That brings down the level of discourse here, and belongs on Facebook where you can share memes with a bunch of smooth brained people that agree with you.
    - nailer 4y ago
      > it’s not even based on fact Pardon? What specifically of the very specific, widely accepted points of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33215270 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33215270 was not based in fact? If you think my points are issues with the mainstream left rather than the far left I don’t think you’ve been reading the posts you keep writing replies to.
      - MarkMarine 4y ago
        I’m not going to put effort into describing where and why you’re wrong, I don’t think talking to you is worth the effort. You’ll never change your beliefs.
        nailer 4y ago
        Fair enough. I’ll point out as that as the person complaining about the level of discourse you’re the only person in this conversation that has resorted to insults and refused to address reasonable questions.