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Does FIFA own a copyright on the word "football"? no Does shipping 20 players from 50 poorer countries cost a lot? no does FIFA even owns a copyright on the wor

Does FIFA own a copyright on the word "football"? no Does shipping 20 players from 50 poorer countries cost a lot? no does FIFA even owns a copyright on the words "Football World Cup"?

smcl 4y ago
EA could very well setup "The EA Football World Cup" and invite the world's football associations to participate in it, with substantial prize money as a reward. But even if the countries could participate (they couldn't, unless they sent their Under 21s or other development/reserve players, see my other comment) and even if they did participate (many wouldn't) the tournament would be seen as an inferior knock-off and wouldn't gain the support from the fans that would be required to make it worthwhile.
- polotics 4y ago
  How do you know this? A size 140 Arsenal jersey wearer I know would beg to differ, the Quatar catastrophe being clear for any age to understand. How do you think it would be inferior? The rules of football would be respected, and also it would match EA's official console football game!
  - smcl 4y ago
    If your Arsenal-supporting friend sincerely believes that a rival World Cup would go anywhere at all, then they're a little bit naive and don't really understand the game. Qatar could end up being (more of) a catastrophe, and heads may roll at FIFA but the FIFA World Cup isn't getting replaced any time soon.
    - polotics 4y ago
      They... is a kid. so point taken, still one can dream, right?
      - smcl 4y ago
        Ah sorry I did not get the "size 140" reference, it's in a sizing format I'm not familiar with! As a former-kid who had his own dreams (Scotland winning the World Cup) which have had to be progressively scaled back as I grew up (Scotland qualifying for the World Cup) I sympathise, and I hope your Arsenal pal gets to see the tournament they dream of :)
  - dalmo3 4y ago
    You just need to look back at Arsenal's (and others') last year's proposal for an European Super League and the massive backlash resulting, which made them not only drop it (for now) but also, hilariously, also agree to pay fines to UEFA for conspiracy to treason or something. EA dumping FIFA is a good thing to kickstart the mere idea of competition against FIFA's monopoly (and by extension continental bodies), but any actionable outcome is still decades away.
9dev 4y ago
Do all clubs people want to watch have contracts with FIFA? Yes Do all the manufacturers of sports clothing, shoes, balls, goal posts, etc. have deals with FIFA? Yes Does FIFA use bribes and any means necessary to prevent anyone from disturbing their racket schemes? Yes Don’t forget you’re dealing with a lot of very powerful and dangerous people here that make really big money, are deeply intertwined with governments, and have a history of doing anything it takes to earn more money. You’re not going to cut them out of the deal, that simply won’t happen.
- smcl 4y ago
  What clubs have contracts with FIFA?
  - sofixa 4y ago
    Clubs are members of their local association, which is a member of and regulated by FIFA.
    - smcl 4y ago
      OK that's both wrong (FIFA isn’t involved in regulating the confederations or the members or the clubs) and not what you originally said. I think you just made a mistake in understanding what FIFA does. Same with this: > Do all the manufacturers of sports clothing, shoes, balls, goal posts, etc. have deals with FIFA? Yes FIFA will have a relationship with sponsors of FIFA events (the dozens of brands you see during the World Cup or the Club World Cup) and will select who provides the official ball during these events (usually Adidas) or who makes FIFA-branded merch (lame stuff, relatively small market). But each individual player chooses their own boots + equipment, each national team or club negotiates their own sponsors and kit providers. At Qatar you'll see a wide variety of them - Nike, Adidas, Puma, Hummel, Marathon, Majid, Le Coq Sportif, Kappa, New Balance - FIFA weren't involved in the selection of any of them. And I'm not sure what to say about the goal posts - they'll just be whatever is already in the stadiums in use at any given World Cup. FIFA is a corrupt enough organization, we don't need to pretend they're also some sinister dictator controlling every level of the global game. Not least because it lets the different confederations and national football associations off the hook for their own mixtures of incompetence and corruption.

Does FIFA own a copyright on the word "football"? no Does shipping 20 players from 50 poorer countries cost a lot? no does FIFA even owns a copyright on the words "Football World Cup"?

smcl 4y ago

EA could very well setup "The EA Football World Cup" and invite the world's football associations to participate in it, with substantial prize money as a reward. But even if the countries could participate (they couldn't, unless they sent their Under 21s or other development/reserve players, see my other comment) and even if they did participate (many wouldn't) the tournament would be seen as an inferior knock-off and wouldn't gain the support from the fans that would be required to make it worthwhile.

polotics 4y ago
How do you know this? A size 140 Arsenal jersey wearer I know would beg to differ, the Quatar catastrophe being clear for any age to understand. How do you think it would be inferior? The rules of football would be respected, and also it would match EA's official console football game!
- smcl 4y ago
  If your Arsenal-supporting friend sincerely believes that a rival World Cup would go anywhere at all, then they're a little bit naive and don't really understand the game. Qatar could end up being (more of) a catastrophe, and heads may roll at FIFA but the FIFA World Cup isn't getting replaced any time soon.
  - polotics 4y ago
    They... is a kid. so point taken, still one can dream, right?
    - smcl 4y ago
      Ah sorry I did not get the "size 140" reference, it's in a sizing format I'm not familiar with! As a former-kid who had his own dreams (Scotland winning the World Cup) which have had to be progressively scaled back as I grew up (Scotland qualifying for the World Cup) I sympathise, and I hope your Arsenal pal gets to see the tournament they dream of :)
- dalmo3 4y ago
  You just need to look back at Arsenal's (and others') last year's proposal for an European Super League and the massive backlash resulting, which made them not only drop it (for now) but also, hilariously, also agree to pay fines to UEFA for conspiracy to treason or something. EA dumping FIFA is a good thing to kickstart the mere idea of competition against FIFA's monopoly (and by extension continental bodies), but any actionable outcome is still decades away.

9dev 4y ago

Do all clubs people want to watch have contracts with FIFA? Yes Do all the manufacturers of sports clothing, shoes, balls, goal posts, etc. have deals with FIFA? Yes Does FIFA use bribes and any means necessary to prevent anyone from disturbing their racket schemes? Yes Don’t forget you’re dealing with a lot of very powerful and dangerous people here that make really big money, are deeply intertwined with governments, and have a history of doing anything it takes to earn more money. You’re not going to cut them out of the deal, that simply won’t happen.

smcl 4y ago
What clubs have contracts with FIFA?
- sofixa 4y ago
  Clubs are members of their local association, which is a member of and regulated by FIFA.
  - smcl 4y ago
    OK that's both wrong (FIFA isn’t involved in regulating the confederations or the members or the clubs) and not what you originally said. I think you just made a mistake in understanding what FIFA does. Same with this: > Do all the manufacturers of sports clothing, shoes, balls, goal posts, etc. have deals with FIFA? Yes FIFA will have a relationship with sponsors of FIFA events (the dozens of brands you see during the World Cup or the Club World Cup) and will select who provides the official ball during these events (usually Adidas) or who makes FIFA-branded merch (lame stuff, relatively small market). But each individual player chooses their own boots + equipment, each national team or club negotiates their own sponsors and kit providers. At Qatar you'll see a wide variety of them - Nike, Adidas, Puma, Hummel, Marathon, Majid, Le Coq Sportif, Kappa, New Balance - FIFA weren't involved in the selection of any of them. And I'm not sure what to say about the goal posts - they'll just be whatever is already in the stadiums in use at any given World Cup. FIFA is a corrupt enough organization, we don't need to pretend they're also some sinister dictator controlling every level of the global game. Not least because it lets the different confederations and national football associations off the hook for their own mixtures of incompetence and corruption.