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This is provably false. The nazi imprisoned and even exterminated socialists and communists as soon as they could.

nailer 4y ago
I don’t follow your logic- my statement was that that the nazis openly considered themselves socialists and class warfare was a huge part of nazi ideology. Your state that’s probably false - but then don’t prove either of those statements false. It’s entirely possible to fight between factions of the same side of politics.
- rosnd 4y ago
  Class warfare seems to be a standard part of far right ideology, from Trump crowd to European far right.
  - nailer 4y ago
    Trump isn't far right. If you think he is you likely have very little knowledge of politics.
    - rosnd 4y ago
      Or perhaps you have very little knowledge of politics? From a European perspective, Trump crowd is certainly far right. Shit, even most democrats would be right wing here.
      - nailer 4y ago
        In Europe. Trumps not advocating for an ethno state, political violence or anything else we’d typically associate with the far right.
        rosnd 4y ago
        Trump is not advocating for political violence? Huh. Well, I guess that's debatable. I'd argue that his election related claims are exactly that, if the elections are fraudulent what alternatives are there to solve that but violence? What other alternative could there be if the other party has truly pulled off such a coup? Trump also pushes extreme religious views, such as abortion bans (In fact, he claims the abortion ban to have been decided by God himself).
        nailer 4y ago
        By that novel standard anyone else with an equally ridiculous conspiracy is calling for violence. Think Trump got in by secretly collating with Putin? Call to violence. Neither situation is how the far right, eg the BNP or German neo nazi groups would operate.
        rosnd 4y ago
        > Think Trump got in by secretly collating with Putin? Call to violence. I don't understand that one. It's normal to collude with third parties to win elections.
- MarkMarine 4y ago
  Ridiculous. Like I said, goldfish brained thinking. If you read just a little bit and used some critical thinking, you could figure this out yourself but it sounds like you prefer to think what you currently think because it supports your current ideology.
  - nailer 4y ago
    ok
- goodpoint 4y ago
  Both the fascists and the nazi never considered themselves socialists. This is proven by numerous quotes from mussolini, hitler, various party members and verified by historians. The fact that both fascists and nazi imprisoned, tortured and killed socialists and communists (again, widely proven by historians) is perfectly aligned with that. Additionally, both fascists and nazi never implemented policies or took actions that would be aligned with socialism.
  - nailer 4y ago
    > Both the fascists and the nazi never considered themselves socialists. That’s provably incorrect, see the link posted by the other socialist in this same thread.

I don’t follow your logic- my statement was that that the nazis openly considered themselves socialists and class warfare was a huge part of nazi ideology. Your state that’s probably false - but then don’t prove either of those statements false. It’s entirely possible to fight between factions of the same side of politics.

rosnd 4y ago
Class warfare seems to be a standard part of far right ideology, from Trump crowd to European far right.
- nailer 4y ago
  Trump isn't far right. If you think he is you likely have very little knowledge of politics.
  - rosnd 4y ago
    Or perhaps you have very little knowledge of politics? From a European perspective, Trump crowd is certainly far right. Shit, even most democrats would be right wing here.
    - nailer 4y ago
      In Europe. Trumps not advocating for an ethno state, political violence or anything else we’d typically associate with the far right.
      - rosnd 4y ago
        Trump is not advocating for political violence? Huh. Well, I guess that's debatable. I'd argue that his election related claims are exactly that, if the elections are fraudulent what alternatives are there to solve that but violence? What other alternative could there be if the other party has truly pulled off such a coup? Trump also pushes extreme religious views, such as abortion bans (In fact, he claims the abortion ban to have been decided by God himself).
        nailer 4y ago
        By that novel standard anyone else with an equally ridiculous conspiracy is calling for violence. Think Trump got in by secretly collating with Putin? Call to violence. Neither situation is how the far right, eg the BNP or German neo nazi groups would operate.
        rosnd 4y ago
        > Think Trump got in by secretly collating with Putin? Call to violence. I don't understand that one. It's normal to collude with third parties to win elections.
MarkMarine 4y ago
Ridiculous. Like I said, goldfish brained thinking. If you read just a little bit and used some critical thinking, you could figure this out yourself but it sounds like you prefer to think what you currently think because it supports your current ideology.
- nailer 4y ago
  ok
goodpoint 4y ago
Both the fascists and the nazi never considered themselves socialists. This is proven by numerous quotes from mussolini, hitler, various party members and verified by historians. The fact that both fascists and nazi imprisoned, tortured and killed socialists and communists (again, widely proven by historians) is perfectly aligned with that. Additionally, both fascists and nazi never implemented policies or took actions that would be aligned with socialism.
- nailer 4y ago
  > Both the fascists and the nazi never considered themselves socialists. That’s provably incorrect, see the link posted by the other socialist in this same thread.