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Deepl: > Special routers are required in German doctors' offices to connect to the "telematics" health data network. After only five years of operation, there

Deepl: > Special routers are required in German doctors' offices to connect to the "telematics" health data network. After only five years of operation, there is no alternative to replacing the devices - at least according to the manufacturers. This exchange is expected to burden the already struggling healthcare system with additional costs of around 400 million euros. The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) shows that the expensive hardware exchange is anything but necessary, and donates a solution to the problem free of charge.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>This exchange is expected to burden the already struggling healthcare system with additional costs of around 400 million euros. I'm always amazed at the gross inefficiencies of the German bureaucratic machine (including most public and government institutions), despite the traditional world renowned stereotype of "German efficiency", even though at this point I know I shouldn't be surprised anymore. The CCC is a national treasure.
- andi999 4y ago
  Isnt the stereotype 'deutsche Gruendlichkeit' which is not efficiancy but thoroughness, which just mean that a few thousand pages need to be filled out, signed and countersigned for the 400 mill order.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    Living in both Germany and Austria, I've learned that the excessive paper based bureaucracy is mostly there so that people in charge have their butts always covered. "It's not my fault, I did everything by the book, here look, I've got the paperwork to prove it". Tip for anyone living or wanting to move there: keep digital copies of all important letters, bills, documents, contracts and paperwork you get. It's not unheard of for a company or government institution to make mistakes and you ending up on the hook with huge fines or bills to pay, so having copies of all possible paperwork from the beginning of time could save your ass one day.
    - RealityVoid 4y ago
      This sort of abdication of responsibility permeates through german companies as well and it pisses me off to no end.
- hef19898 4y ago
  Call me jaded, but my experience with public contracts told me that, most likely, the hardware will still be replaced or, best case, the company providing the firmware will get a follow up contract around 100 million to do the update. Also expect close to no media coverage about that, or any political consequences. Heck, it took a thorough, highly public late night show investigation into the head of a government agency for cyber security and his close, and private links to former KGB agents and owners of cyber security firms, shady lobbying associations and whatnot for to be soon replaced. As if his known close ties to the private sector, and specific companies that ended up in the concil advising the government on cyber security, wasn't enough. One has to wonder so, how such a position doesn't require a security clearance. If I had close private contacts to known former KGB guys (known because the guy in question got an award in public for long service for the KGB and the state) I wouod have never passed these checks. Or if I had not mentioned them I would have lost my job immediately. Fun fact, it was the former conservative led government, and more specifically conservative politicians in cjarge of the ministry of interior, that put the guy in his position. And politians from the same party maintained the contact with Russian authorities.
  - formerly_proven 4y ago
    It’s probably difficult to appreciate for Americans how wildly intransparent German governments and their agencies are across the board. The default for everything is to be closed and private. No accountability mindset at all.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

>This exchange is expected to burden the already struggling healthcare system with additional costs of around 400 million euros. I'm always amazed at the gross inefficiencies of the German bureaucratic machine (including most public and government institutions), despite the traditional world renowned stereotype of "German efficiency", even though at this point I know I shouldn't be surprised anymore. The CCC is a national treasure.

andi999 4y ago
Isnt the stereotype 'deutsche Gruendlichkeit' which is not efficiancy but thoroughness, which just mean that a few thousand pages need to be filled out, signed and countersigned for the 400 mill order.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  Living in both Germany and Austria, I've learned that the excessive paper based bureaucracy is mostly there so that people in charge have their butts always covered. "It's not my fault, I did everything by the book, here look, I've got the paperwork to prove it". Tip for anyone living or wanting to move there: keep digital copies of all important letters, bills, documents, contracts and paperwork you get. It's not unheard of for a company or government institution to make mistakes and you ending up on the hook with huge fines or bills to pay, so having copies of all possible paperwork from the beginning of time could save your ass one day.
  - RealityVoid 4y ago
    This sort of abdication of responsibility permeates through german companies as well and it pisses me off to no end.
hef19898 4y ago
Call me jaded, but my experience with public contracts told me that, most likely, the hardware will still be replaced or, best case, the company providing the firmware will get a follow up contract around 100 million to do the update. Also expect close to no media coverage about that, or any political consequences. Heck, it took a thorough, highly public late night show investigation into the head of a government agency for cyber security and his close, and private links to former KGB agents and owners of cyber security firms, shady lobbying associations and whatnot for to be soon replaced. As if his known close ties to the private sector, and specific companies that ended up in the concil advising the government on cyber security, wasn't enough. One has to wonder so, how such a position doesn't require a security clearance. If I had close private contacts to known former KGB guys (known because the guy in question got an award in public for long service for the KGB and the state) I wouod have never passed these checks. Or if I had not mentioned them I would have lost my job immediately. Fun fact, it was the former conservative led government, and more specifically conservative politicians in cjarge of the ministry of interior, that put the guy in his position. And politians from the same party maintained the contact with Russian authorities.
- formerly_proven 4y ago
  It’s probably difficult to appreciate for Americans how wildly intransparent German governments and their agencies are across the board. The default for everything is to be closed and private. No accountability mindset at all.